If Sports Were Covered Like Women’s Beach Volleyball

In case you missed this… interesting contrast between photos of men’s and women’s beach volleyball. For men you find tough, competitive guys:

 

And for women:

        

   

Oh, and here’s a woman actually playing the sport. In that outfit she stays sexy!

Interestingly, there are a number of pics of women listed under “men’s beach volleyball” but no men on the women’s list.

When Nate Jones, over at Metro.us, innocently searched for pics of women’s Olympic beach volleyball, he was left asking, “What if every Olympic sport was photographed like beach volleyball?” Here’s a sampling of what that would look like (you can see all his pics by clicking here):

As the camera hones in on women’s body parts and ignores men’s, you can see why all of us – men and women – come to think of women as the sex objects in our society. Even the fact that women volleyball players wear such a skimpy outfit doubles down on the whole, “women as sex object” thing.

And so ignored men’s bodies leave us ignoring men-as-sexy while the women’s body-focus makes them all about sex. And actually, that’s not very good for our sex lives – or for well-rounded lives. For more on that, see the posts below.

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Posted on August 13, 2012, in feminism, gender, men, objectification, psychology, sex and sexuality, sexism, women and tagged , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 45 Comments.

  1. I tried posting what I said for first post. Hopefully it worked this time

  2. No, the first post didn’t show up. Could you clue me in?

    Here;s the video link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw&t=154s

    darn wifi, it showed that it sent but some reason didn’t show up. This clip has gone viral and interesting. I think it shows not just how damaging social media can be, but digital stuff in general like dating apps especially for men. I’ve talked about my annoyance with using them despite having a few dates. But this guy according to the woman, said he was a good looking guy. Good pictures, interesting job, above average looks. Points out that it’s not just average guys but above average too. Maybe that 1% group of men, but even if a guy is not that 1% good looking like young marlon brando, it doesn’t mean he’s not handsome. Just not THAT handsome which most ppl are’t that men or women. The guy had matches but as she noticed most were not whom were attractive. The few attractive one’s either didn’t reply, or put very little effort in reply and just ghosted. She thought it would be fun and crazy how by day 5 this was hurting her feelings and she wanted to delete in just one week after trying it. She said how it was for her and totally different.

    She heard what it was like but said it’s another thing actually using the app as a guy and literally seeing how it was. Dating apps seem like a different universe from real life tho. A small percent it might go well for guys but most that aren’t model handsome or top tier profession maybe or something not so much. Seems like way more nitpicking which is not great. Seems like people end up treating each other like commodities. It’s good to want value and be selective, but it’s another thing to nitpick non important things, but when there are so many options for attractive women, I guess it’s hard to not see what you can be picky about and best upgrade you come across. But like I said about the different universe. That woman is cute, pretty imo.

    She’s not like hot or very hot imo. But my point is on apps, even handsome guys are more often swiped left and hardly matched by cute or pretty women, but not like hot or very attractive ones. Whereas like me and other guys who others find pretty handsome, will get attention or checked out sometimes maybe googly eyes once in a while by same women of attractiveness or hotter. And not to do with personality, but just eye contact or such women seeing you walking by or amongst in person without showing your personality so physically attractive. I know have personality so I know that;s attractive too and value that, I’m just pointing out the physical side. It’s why dudes can’t take dating apps literal, because odds the women swiping pass them doesn’t mean they aren’t handsome or attractive in person. It’s just a different universe from real life or in person.

    • So the basic idea seems to be that when the woman posed as herself she got more positive response than when she posed as an attractive guy (and I agree that he is an attractive guy).

      There are a lot of possible reasons for this. I have a friend who doesn’t really trust attractive guys because she thinks they’re too snobby. Maybe that’s a problem? When she said that I could kind of see her point. And then when Molly Ringwald was doing “pretty in pink” she told the Director that a real girl would go for the less attractive Andrew McCarthy over the more model looking guy. And I could see that. Maybe for the same reason?

      I saw another study where actual people approached women and the women were much more likely to say yes to another woman that to a man. My memory is that it was thought that women are just less scary in terms of people you don’t know.

      And other data suggest that both women and men think that women are nicer than men so maybe wanting that nice relationship?

      I also read about a woman whose partner wanted to have an open relationship because I guess he was going on dating sites and actually getting a lot of response, but that was before he followed up and he thought he would have all these women after him. His girlfriend finally agreed and so they both did these dating websites and she had way more luck than he did. When it came to actually getting together pretty much no women were that interested. My memory is that the women were often just seeing if they could get guys to like them, kind of for an ego boost (women’s self-esteem is highly dependent on how attractive they believe they are). So they wanted the ego boost but the idea of going out with a strange guy was a little scary.

      I’m guessing guys would generally have more luck with women who have opportunities to get to know them before they are asked out. Other research finds that the more you see someone, literally just see someone in person, the more likely you are to like them.

  3. You really should be a sociologist!”
    I like that even though you hardly post anymore, you check the blog and respond to me. I don’t know about sociologist because while I agree somethings with it and have learned things. There are things with biology I believe in as much. I believe you’re liberal while I’m independent or moderate.

    It really depends on the social issue where I don’t like some liberal policies, but likewise I see republican policies or views as shit. It seems like sociologists might skew more liberal or that view, or maybe not. I see the perspective of culture having the effect with how it treats men and women and how that can negatively affect both men and women just in different ways. Btw have you every voted for a republican. Doesn’t mean congress person, or governor but maybe just small level like county. I vote either way depending on who and how I feel about them. Some years it’s mostly republican others I’ve voted many democrats.

    The crazy thing about me, is that other than my family or very close friends. I feel many people feel or know I’m pretty intelligent person (this isn’t me trying to brag or that intent), but I think some would be surprised of my depth or like how philosophical I can be or introspective. That reason is because I’m generally not a serious person which is good, as humor and smiles are therapeutic. I’m not funny to be liked which is good as some are and that’s insecurity. I just have a playful, personality and kind of a goofball a lot of times lol. So there were times when I would say funny goofy stuff often to co workers or ball busting and they laugh their asses off or smile, with ppl, another moment I was having a discussion about time with a smart co worker. No, not time as in your watch but as in universe time. He believed it was movement or vibrations in the universe that is time, I believe it was absolute and intangible like eternity and infinite. He felt they were separate, but I saw eternity as basically endless time or time is endless. Humans just quantify it to make sense of it or try to measure something that can’t be.

    • It’s true that sociologists skew liberal because people who want to make the world better typically join a field that is helpful in thinking through how to do that. Whereas conservatives tend to be pleased with things as they are and want to conserve the status quo.

      But there are some conservative sociologists. Since I’m not one of them you don’t tend to hear that perspective much. (And they are a minority.) The conservative sociologists tend toward “functionalist” sociology which suggests that things are the way they are because they function well. “Critical” sociology, which is more my type, look at how powerful groups exploit less powerful groups, and consider how less powerful groups can respond.

      You basically have a mind that works well with the discipline. That said, you probably make more money in whatever job you’re doing now than you would as a sociologist, so keep your day job. (My dad warned me I wouldn’t make much money in sociology and it’s true.)

      I’m curious to hear more of your perspectives that disagree with mine. I don’t like being in a bubble and I do try to read conservative columnists but you can’t ask them questions.

      Yes I had voted for Republicans early in my “voting career,” but that was before I started reading the news much. When I started reading the news it seemed like conservatives tend to comfort the comfortable and afflict the afflicted, like giving tax cuts to the wealthy while talking about getting rid of Social Security and Medicare, as Rick Scott who’s heading the Republican reelection drive, is advocating right now. Or taking away women’s rights like the right to abortion. Or all of the racism you hear on the right.

      A funny, goofball philosopher. That actually seems like a nice combination.

      On issues of time you should check out the theory of relativity and quantum physics. I only know some rudimentary basics in the area but even an introduction to that field can blow your mind.

      • Thanks. I have a co worker, I like him, he busts my balls a lot but Is funny. He’s in another department but we work near each other. Anywhoo, one day he was proud of this beef Jerky he made or something. He had them in a zip lock bag and he showed me. They were links tho and like cigar sized. I guess he was expecting me to ask him about the jerky. But I instead asked him why he brought in a bag of dicks to work 🤷‍♂️. His endearing words to me was fuck you lol, but then he laughed.

        So as you can see why ppl who know me might be surprised that I have a deep thinking, philosophical mind when I’m often like that or stuff like that.

      • Good illustration! I’m sure he would never guess you were a philosopher and goofy!

      • I broke up my response here, so continued part here.

        Years ago, it did bother me but I stopped caring awhile ago. It’s more like annoyance, because I know I’m an attractive guy and I know it’s very competitive on dating apps. But sometimes, I’m thinking who are many of these women swiping on?

        There really THAT many men on the apps that are young Marlon Brando handsome? I’m sure there are, but not the hot women but simply pretty women all swiping on these guys? Because like this experiment showed, even above average looking guys aren’t getting similar attractive women swiping on them but lesser attractive more often than not. An they will often put little or no effort in convo too.

        That’s the crazy thing as the woman in the video for example. I think she’s cute, pretty. Not hot, but one might see her above average anyway. Women who look like her, even if not “hot”, Even other above average good looking guys rarely get right swiped by these women. It’s not a weird universe dating apps to irl. Whereas irl plenty of handsome guys draw attention from such women or prettier, but on apps they are almost invisible. I’m not saying this to try to brag but yeah, women like her and some actually prettier or just hot, have checked me out or where I drew their attention. Not from my personality with it, which I do have personality.

        But purely visual from seeing me. I had one girl very cute, at a Dunkin give me a larger latte and no charge to me because she found me really cute. But like I simply ordered a drink and didn’t show anything from my personality to feel it was from that also. Sometimes I am playful but I wasn’t that time but there ya go. But me on a dating app from such women and………yeah I’m quite invisible. Hell I think I’m more visible to Stevie wonder than to these women….even he could see that…

      • I hope my previous post showed up, I didn’t see it shoe unlike my second part

      • No, the first post didn’t show up. Could you clue me in?

  4. Welcome to how my mind watches WWE.
    I feel like this is another case of women just can’t exist, the same attitude that makes people feel like they need make up to get a job, or what makes teacher yell at young girls to not look revealing at school eventhough they’re 10. Women when they exist outside in the world, just get viewed as sexual objects, not as some impressive athletes who deserve to be viewed for their power and knowledge, they’re being looked at as “boooottyyy butt cheeksssss”
    Which is super insulting when you watch something like football and commentators will be like “johnson had a bowl of pasta so he is not at the top of his game, as we all know his birth star is in the right position so he might pull through he’s earned this” they’ll treat is like we all need a textbook of the player’s ever detail and they’ll comment on the game and their training program, but we never get a good butt shot. I think either women’s sports need to be respected more, or men’s sports should stop looking at the game and start focusing on some butts.

  5. I feel like when it comes to any women’s sports it is usually viewed as like a sexy game, and not being viewed as how male sports are. Also, I’ve noticed that most of the uniforms women’s use when it comes to playing any sports they usually tend to be shorter and tighter. They tend to judge them a lot more when it comes to their body posture and sometimes they tend to view how athletic their body looks. When it comes to women playing sports I also feel like they tend to be more judgemental with a lot of their movements when it comes to playing any sports. When women tend to play sports they usually tend to become more striking with all the moves they’ve done. Even when they play their best they usually tend to focus on the negative part of the game and they make that the highlight of their game.

  6. Wow, that entire blog post was cringing, and I am dumbfounded. Both men and women dress like they are at the beach, hence the sport “beach volleyball.” Women wear their sport bikinis, and men wear their swim trunks. Men wear their shirt most of the time because, in case you haven’t partaken in the sport at all, diving on the sand with your arms open and chest out tends to rub your nipples in a way that is not pleasant.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=womens+beach+volleyball&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS768US768&sxsrf=ACYBGNQj2Uy9c_WGZ2lniDa93bFq6MWQNA:1575594692493&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7udLP65_mAhUObq0KHWGCDP0Q_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1337&bih=728

    I included the google image search for “women’s beach volleyball” just in case you needed a true reference.

    Here is the men’s volleyball google image search. If you’ll pay close attention, both searches have results of both celebrating and actually playing the sport. Another observation I made is that you can see up-close pictures of men, not women, shirtless and in a glistening sweat. “And so ignored men’s bodies leave us ignoring men-as-sexy while the women’s body-focus makes them all about sex.” I’m not sure that is the object of this sport at all. In fact, I am pretty sure Kerri Walsh and Misty May were continuously celebrated for their tremendous success at multiple Olympics, and I mean athletic success by the way.

    • I could get your “women’s beach volleyball” to come up but not the “men’s beach volleyball” so I invite readers to Google the latter themselves and compare. (I won’t put links on my blog that don’t come up correctly.)

      I just Googled men’s beach volleyball and:

      * While there are no men in skimpy outfits pictured in women’s beach volleyball you can find pictures of women in men’s beach volleyball.

      * There are no close-ups of men’s butts in men’s beach volleyball pictures.

      Also, you will find few women dressed as skimpily as women’s beach volleyball players on American beaches.

      • Do you also think the difference in photos and close ups is also because many or a majority of the camera people are men? And since most men are straight, they will zoom in one women’s bodies and do it from the perspective of male viewers in mind. While obviously not caring or wanting to zoom in on a man’s butt obviously. Sure there could be gay men photographers in main network sports events or camera guys, but just odds percentage wise is that it will be a straight man since I believe only 10 percent of the population is gay so a great majority of men will be straight and viewing from the heterosexual male perspective.

        I’ve joked about this before, not just about sports but just events on tv in general. That the camera person has to be a guy. Not to say there aren’t women camera ppl, but seeing how things are done, I can’t help feeling many times the camera person is a guy like I said and most likely right. Idk if it’s something just more guys try for or gravitate to for careers in broadcast communications or what but that’s my feeling. But the other example of my belief that more often the camera person is a straight man is, like I said event shows on tv. Whether it’s a stand up comedy show or music awards, concert, men’s pro sports game. Granted they do a general view of the crowd, but they also during the course always so happen to have the camera view to the audience in the stadium and it’s a woman or women and they just so happen to be young and pretty ha.

        It makes me smirk as I’m like “yeah that camera person is definitely a guy? It’s like sonar, guy’s are not always observant with things, “how many guys ask their wives where things are in the house, that’s basically right in their face ha”. But a dude can just be chilling not trying to look at anyone and peripheral vision or what, but notice a hot woman that’s like all the way across the room. I mean like can be 100 feet away on like opposite side of a building and his eyes somehow catch it amongst everyone else or things around him even though he’s not looking.

        It’s an interesting phenomenon, when guys I know, we all just somehow are away when a beautiful is around even if from a far distance and not looking at her or trying but somehow see her from corner of our eye and obviously catches our attention. But as a result of this, it’s also the reason why zoom in’s don’t happen on men, because one would see, because men are not sexualized. That such close ups or men’s bodies would be “homoerotic” and would be viewed as catering to gay men and not straight women. Straight men don’t want to be object of men’s attention but women’s instead. So another reason men would not want to zoom in or have their bodies zoomed in on as they feel it would instead be “spank bank” material for gay men.

      • Yes I agree. I think that women are more sexualized in media because men have had more control over media, whether they are the photographers or the directors or the producers or publishers, and most men are straight and they are seeing things from their perspective. And once he did this bombardment both men and women are sensitized/Socialized toward thinking of women as the sexy ones. So even when women gain those positions they could continue the pattern, while adding more men probably, too.

        You really should be a sociologist!

        By the way, I checked to see whose teaching women’s studies this quarter and the person who uses my blog for her class isn’t teaching any women’s studies courses this quarter (she primarily teaches history) so I probably won’t be posting anything new. Unless I crosspost something that I publish someplace else, if I get around to doing some writing. But I always enjoy hearing from you, so feel free to write in if you have some thoughts or questions.

  7. The difference in women’s and men’s sports starts in funding and doesn’t end in coverage. The outfits or uniforms that women wear are constantly critiqued and pointed out, rather than their athletic abilities or performance. I think a lot of female athletes find that their body is a bigger attraction to the “fans” (or perverts) than their sport. Female athletes do not receive the same recognition or equal pay, because the focus is on their looks or making the sport appealing to viewers by being sexualized rather than promoting their amazing athletic abilities. Also, images like this of females bodies, probably makes female viewers more self conscious. If I were a young beach volleyball player, seeing such vulnerable pictures of extremely fit women would make me think twice if I want to play a sport where my body is exposed in that way to the media and the world. Body image issues are huge for men and women and photography that exposes parts of women’s bodies that are often areas of self consciousness does not help create a positive body image, at all.

  8. I found this post to be especially interesting given that I just responded to a question about the portrayal of women in sports in the media in my Women’s Studies Class. Its crazy to me how much women are objectified or only worth ‘seeing’ or ‘listening to’ when they look or act a certain way, and it makes me think of the time that Serena Williams wore a catsuit while playing tennis ( it was designed to prevent blood clots but she still received criticism for wearing it and the french tennis federation said that the fact that she wore that ( so basically a female wearing anything other than a skirt in the sport) was disrespectful.

  9. Women’s sports in general, do not receive the same type of press and coverage in sports between men. Most of the time when there is press about women, it is unfortunately to shame them on something they are doing wrong. It’s never about how women deserve equal pay as men or how they are seen as just “women” playing sports. It is just not the same as men. For women who play beach volleyball, they are shamed on the outfits they are wearing as too “skimpy” or to “exposed” and it is not fair for women to have to be ashamed every time they play the sport they love. For men they don’t wear a shirt on, they are almost wearing the complete same as a woman. So why do women get shamed? Unfortunately, the media coverage women sports do get in this case is that women are looked at as “sex objects” and it just isnt fair. It isn’t fair to women playing this sport and women also all around who have to deal with this on a different scale. Women are not objects and more clarity about this needs to be said to make a difference in the sports industry and as well as globally.

  10. thegreenesteyes

    Looking at these photos next to each other really shows the contrast between how men and women are portrayed in sports. I have always noticed that women are virtually in bikinis when they play, and there are definitely more camera shots that show them as “sexy” rather than the actual athletes they are. This reminds me of when Simone Biles was criticized for having such defined abs, with men suggesting she looked too manly and that they weren’t attracted to her. She was supported by many women, who said: “she’s not got these abs to please you, she has them because she has trained really hard in her sport, and is a very successful athlete.” Serena Williams has also been constantly criticized by the media for also looking too masculine. I wonder why it isn’t okay for men to have a more masculine body, and why men are criticized for being too feminine. The world of sports has always been interesting to me also that women’s soccer is rarely televised compared to men. Is it because they don’t have sexy cheerleaders? Or that the women are also deemed too masculine due to their training when they are excellent at the sport they play? I have watched close friends of mine play volleyball, and they always comment on how members in the audience aren’t necessarily there for the sport, only to look at them. I know their bodies and outfits are fetishized mostly on social media, such as Twitter, and men seem to think it is okay to say “screw the game, I’m just here for the great asses.” To me, that is shocking and really demeaning, especially when these women don’t choose to be eye-candy to men, they are simply playing a sport that they clearly enjoy and are very good at it.

  11. Sarah Yoffe-Sharp

    The photo comparison between men’s and women’s volleyball on this blog posting is disheartening but something that we have all seen before. As a female athlete in an aesthetic sport, I hope to have my athleticism valued over my body. However, I believe that the variation between these men’s and women’s beach volleyball photographs is related to two factors: the audience of the photographs and the photographers themselves. If consumers are willing to pay for sports coverage that offers such a huge disparity between images of male and female athletes, then these images will continue to be produced. On the other hand, a self-respecting female photographer and volleyball enthusiast would have a hard time looking herself in the mirror if her best shots of a match were close up shots of player’s bikini bottoms. This observation leads me to believe that most of the photographers taking these types of photographs are men, or women who value their paycheck more than self-respect.

  12. The sexualization of women’s bodies, especially in sports, has never been as rampant as it was in last summer’s Olympic games. My peers and I were having so many conversations regarding the intersectionality of race and gender and how that hurt our women.

    Though incredible athletes like Simone Biles, Michelle Carter, and Serena Williams are shattering records left and right, we see a few poignant things. Primarily, perfection doesn’t grant any grace from critics. In fact, the opposite tends to be the case: the better a woman (especially a woman of color) does, the harsher the critique of her body (1), ability (2), and “right” to be there (3).

    That all being said, it’s really interesting to look at the flip side of this issue. Over the years, the swimsuit required of men at Olympic games has changed dramatically (4). I would be lying if I said that I didn’t enjoy watching diving with the current men’s uniforms. Which lends me to wonder if I am just another pawn in the sexualization of the athletic body. Questions that need answers!

    (1) http://www.salon.com/2015/07/13/stop_body_shaming_serena_williams_its_time_to_break_this_absurd_and_insulting_habit_once_and_for_all/
    (2) http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/simone-biles-claps-back-at-dancing-with-the-stars-criticism-w481388
    (3) http://www.teenvogue.com/story/alexa-moreno-olympic-gymnast-body-shaming-twitter-fat
    (4) https://www.buzzfeed.com/robstott/so-thirsty-i-could-drink-the-pool?utm_term=.pkgve7aNq#.qbM41lweL

  13. I think it is a shame that in our society women who play sports at the Olympics (and therefore worked very hard to get there) are portrayed as such sex objects. They went there to show their psychical ability and not their toned bodies (because are a result by they hard practice and hard work). I also do not understand why it is a rule in beach volleyball that women need to be almost naked and men can play in shorts and a shirt. Just makes no sense to me. I think we should give men and women an qual opportunity at showing their ability at each sport.

  14. The main reason that women sports are shot from the more sexual or provocative stand point is simply because in our society it very hard to find any thing that aren’t viewed from the male point of view. In a society that would have an equal and open point of view we would probably see more provocative shots of men and not just women. In our society it is more likely that women don’t have a problem looking at other women being objectified for profit for a number of reasons such as: 1.) Is this what my boyfriend needs me to look like for me to be sexy, 2.) I need to be strong and sexy like these women before a man will take me serious, 3.) Simply what does she have that I don’t and 4.) the fact that they just want to watch a great sporting event. Don’t get me me wrong I know that not all women feel this way but when the male point of view skews the prospective of what is being shown on TV we tend to get conditioned. In the same since as a guy who is watching this we tend to learn that objectifying women for profit and pleasure is normal and that a lot of times the women in the lives are suppose to like it just as much

  15. Weter’s comment – “But the bigger thing for me is obviously for little girls to see they can do everything just like little boys can.” So why isn’t the playing field equal – why can’t boys be as free as girls want to be? Everyone gets the girl trying to play on the PGA tour (btw – I would love to be able to hilt like a girl if that meant hitting like Lexi Thompson, and some others!), or the NFL, etc.

    Why can’t boys show emotion, wear color, or silk, have their hair long w/o being called “girly” or “Sissy”. Is that the measure of what we thing of girls – if you show weakness – you are a girl.

    Not so much – but it is the perception!

  16. I have never noticed how women’s beach volleyball pictures all consisted of body shots until this article. I typically hear about how women were the tiniest amount of clothing for beach volleyball while men are practically completely covered! It is rare to see a beach volleyball player wearing a one piece but men can wear a long-sleeved shirt and no one would notice. The work of Nate Jones is very clever and effectively gets the point across! The way women’s beach volleyball pictures are taking is absolutely demeaning, pointless to the sport, and awful. This is yet another prime example of how unfortunately, women are not taken seriously in the sports world (probably the world in general).
    This article reminds me of controversy of women on Sports Illustrated covers. Women featured on the covers are mostly models, not female athletes. Athletes that do appear on the cover are often depicted in a sexualized manner in their sport (Lindsey Vonn for example).

  17. When we are watching women play sports for some odd reason we find it okay to judge their body and appearance. Even though that has nothing to do with how well they are playing the sport Women playing sports is not taken seriously and we lack having women in pro sports. Women are always seen as the cheerleaders for the most part when associating them with sports. Seeing women in pro sports, sports that are televised, is really rare than when dealing with men. With men in sports you have football (Super bowl), baseball (The World Series), etc and they are far less likely to be sexualized like women playing volleyball, gymnastics, tennis, etc. For women it is not about how well they are playing but how they look and how much in shape they are as they play. It tends to come up but why is that exactly? It has nothing to do with her skill and/or talent; it goes to show how we as a society degrade women just because they are women when dealing with athletics/sports.

  18. And the sexualization of the camera shots and context is probably because a majority of camera persons are men. I always found it amusing in games or shows of live comedians performing, there would always be a camera shot to the audience. And there’d always be a camera shot to women who just happen to be hot, or pretty. I call it the hot girl shot ha. And it always made it obvious to me like “yep, the camera holder is definitely a guy” ha. I see that on many tv shows that have an audience, a shot might be of a couple, but its many times a couple which the woman is good looking. It makes me wonder if more women were camera users durinng sporting events or just as many women, if you’d see more camera shots of guy’s bodies in sports or shots of good looking guys in the audience for live comedy shows, etc. Or if women would take objective shots of men and women. It would priobably be more objective shots, but I don’t know for sure.

    • Yeah, and male directors may be having an effect too.

      Because women and men both internalize the culture, female directors and camera operators may still be less likely to zero in on attractive men.

  19. yeah, well men can get seriously hurt. A woman could get killed getting hit by such massive men. There are biological differences and women and men shouldn’t be playing against each other in contact sports. Bowling and nascar is another story, but definitely not contact sports.

  20. Yeah this is semi pro football. It’s nice for women to try men’s sports. I don’t see anything wrong such as bowling, as usually strength isn’t that big a of a factor as accuracy is. And many women seem to score as well as men in bowling. But she’s only 130lbs. It sounds like a publicity stunt and I don’t like the idea, because she’s going to get seriously hurt. Quarterbacks are smaller than defensive lineman and linebackers, but quarterbacks are usually pretty big guys too though. Most qbs range between 6’1-6’6 and like 220lbs to 250lbs depending on the qb. All I know is huge guys get seriously hurt playing football, I don’t want to see a woman get walloped and be crippled. These players tackled her, but they didn’t really lay into like I see football players usually do. I watch football and pretty knowlegable about it and I just think this is a bad idea. A woman can show equality in many different ways, but putting oneself in a very physical game like football amongst men, is asking for her to get kiled and is something I and most people don’t want to happen or see of course.

    • I don’t think that anyone should be denied equal opportunity to try something because of their sex. But I also know that there are biological differences between women and men so that women are better at certain types of sports than men: sports that involve balance, flexibility, and endurance, for instance. Of course, I think that men should be able to have opportunities to do sports that women are better at, on average, too.

      You could be right that she could get seriously hurt. But men, as you say, also get seriously hurt. I know a quarterback at Stanford who had to quit football because it was damaging his brain. And he’s not the only quarterback with that problem. I really don’t think tackle football is good for anyone.

  21. I came upon this on yahoo. Where does trying to equality go too far though? In this instance, regarding sports, I think this is stupid. Has to be a publicity stunt. here’s the link though. http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201402/groundbreaking-woman-makes-history-playing-pro-football-game

    • I don’t know enough about the issue to comment. You see huge guys tackling much smaller quarterbacks so I’m not clear on how much of a difference there is with tackling this young woman.

  22. Great post. I hate to see our female athletes sexualized like this, or having the condition of their hair debated. On the other side of the coin, we have the Brit editor who was shocked at the way the female judo competitors were beating the heck out of each other…shame that being born female makes it acceptable to sexualize strength and skill to the point it carries as much competitive weight as watching half-naked women engaged in a pillow fight, or alarms men who want to protect us. Completely insulting.

  23. Randy Splitter

    Hi, Georgia. Yes, but I believe that your first photo is of Misty May-Traynor, Kerry Walsh’s gold medal-winning partner in beach volleyball (not a tough guy image).

    Randy

  24. Well there are more male camera holders and directors. One has their hand on buttons and the other on their tool

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