Why are you connecting fedora neckbeards to mens rights activists? Seems like you’re trying to dismiss them as stereotypical internet lowlifes without any evidence.

Fedora neckbeards seem far more likely to be feminists than mens rights activists from there actions on youtube.

You make an article designed to attract suicidal men who have grievances with gender pedagogy, blame dismissive attitudes solely on the social conduct of other men, and you lead the whole thing mocking them for their not stifling their whining while “they” control the world? Targeted at the men with the absolute least amount of social agency conceivable? And you claim to have some kind of authority on psychology and Socratic self-awareness?

In a world this knowingly evil, it’s no wonder so many of us want out.

I found this article interesting and kinda sad because it just goes to show you how MRA’s will find any excuse to blame feminists for their problems. The fact that men have a higher suicide rate is unfortunate, but the blame cannot be placed on feminists; it can only be placed on the white male privilege that is very much alive today.
I believe that MRA’s just want to find reasons to blame feminists for the problems that they encounter, such as a higher suicide rate. It’s almost like it helps them sleep better at night if they know that they can throw the blame at someone else (in this case, feminists).
Someone in the comments posted that the blame for higher suicide rates and other problems is societal and I agree completely. Society houses gender roles and forces men and women to fit their set molds to avoid problems. When women are feminists, they’re viewed as “disobeying” the mold set for them and are therefore blamed for the problems that occur for men.
MRA’s blaming feminists is similar to some radical feminists blaming men for all the problems. It’s necessary for both sides to realize that blaming each other won’t solve anything. If we want to create a society that houses equity and equality for all, working together is the most important thing.

I think one of the critiques of feminism by men is the women who say they are for equality but still cling to and enjoy benefits awarded them by patriarchy. Men are supposed to initiate romance and usually end up paying for dates among other things. Men usually get stuck with gendered jobs like mowing and vehicle maintenance.

Some feminists wrongly believe that feminism is about empowering women but it’s actually more in line with gender equality. Part of equality is admitting that you have some of those privileges and that it’s unequal and advocating for change of what it usually called chivalry. Chivalry is not dead, but it should be because that is what equality is about, no one gets special treatment because of what’s between their legs.

So in that regard I can see their point. You shouldn’t be dismissive of men’s rights groups any more than you should of women’s, because as any woman will tell you in less privileged countries women here have nothing to complain about. So should feminism die because some middle class white women have it good in the US? No. Similarly, men who run the world do so while being handicapped emotionally by patriarchy, and most men never get to enjoy their privilege because they are working and paying the bills.

I feel like men always blame women when they feel belittled in any way possible. They should look back through history and notice that patriarchy has embedded these ideas since the beginning of time. It’s not right that women are blamed for a an issue that is as serious as suicide. It’s not surprising that it affects those that are most privileged, honestly. White males have higher standards to live up to in society. It then becomes more of a personal issue where men feel like they have to achieve something great, whereas feminism doesn’t even promote suicide. I think it’s the idea that feminism is even linked to suicide amongst men is preposterous.

This blog post brings up some interesting and valid points. I believe a big problem with our gender differences is derived from the expectations and beliefs that have been instilled in our heads from the time we were children. Even when the male gender is a child, they are scorned for crying or playing in roles that are considered out of the “norm” for little boys. Before reading this post, as a woman I had never thought about the pressure and expectations that can be put on the male gender. For our society, males are expected to be the protectors, the strength, the supplier, and overall succeed in life. The blog states that white males overall have more privilege, but with privilege comes higher expectations. I had never thought about the high expectations placed on men, and now thinking about it I could see how this could have a strain on the ones that don’t meet these high expectations. If we are able to discredit these stereotypes and expectations, and place men and women on the same playing field, there is a possibility we can lessen this pressure on men, and overall share the opportunities and success.

This blog post immediately caught my eye. The Men’s Rights Advocates blame feminism for the high rate of suicide in men? But this post draws attention to the bigger picture. The blogger argues what the purpose of feminism actually is and how it is intended to help better understand all genders. In a reading from my women’s studies course, we learned about the patriarchy and how it affects women as well as men.
I really appreciated how the reading helped me to understand this blog a little better. Feminism (all types) and women’s studies are not studies that sprouted with the intention to hurt men or be a “man hating” movement. However, at times, I am sure it can become difficult or we might even forget to address the ways in which our system affects men. We can become occupied with the idea that men have it all and therefore they should not complain.
The idea that men might have their own hardships and inequalities in our system did not come across my mind until I was in college. Now I have a new found respect for men’s obstacles and challenges. This blog addressed some of that struggle by sharing the story of John Adams and his son, John Quincy Adams, which I really liked. Just as there are expectations and norms for women to follow in this society, there are also expectations and norms for men.
As we know, whenever expectations and norms aren’t fulfilled people become seen as “other” or different. This is the kind of pressure that brings people into a depression or lack of self-fulfillment, which can lead to low self esteem which can lead to suicide. To say that feminism is the reason for men committing suicide is an ignorant argument, in my opinion. I have to agree with the blogger’s argument. I believe that all genders deserve better.

Really great read! I have often considered the link between gender stereotypes and unhappiness. I have had countless male friends and family members express to me that it can be quite lonely as a male because you’re not encouraged to talk about things. For example, because men are supposed to abide by the “no sissy stuff” rule you pointed out they often feel that they have no one to talk to. I can’t imagine not being able to share my fears and sometimes the dark underbelly of my emotions with someone else. In my opinion this is probably a contributing factor to high suicide risks. Humans need communities to foster growth and love. If you don’t allow your true self to be put forward due to gender stereotypes you will feel lonely and isolated. This also pertains to women who feel like they must uphold standards put on them by society rather than seeking what truly makes them happy regardless of their sex.

I guess now everybody should vote for Jeb Bush because if he doesn’t win, he might realize he’s not filling those ‘Bush’ shoes… then he might become depressed, an alcoholic and suicidal.