How Not To Do Open Relationships


By Dr. NerdLove

Reddit apparently saw fit to provide me with a story about open relationships and dating that’s so perfectly crafted and ironic that it’s practically an O. Henry story.

In case you missed it, a gentleman posted the (now deleted) story of how he pressured his girlfriend into an open relationship to the site’s Relationship subreddit. This Reddit Romeo expected that life in an open relationship would be hot and cold running blowjobs for him while his girlfriend – a heavier woman, although he rushes to point out “she was like this when we started” – would be getting whatever crumbs of affection she could scrounge.

I’ll give you three guesses as to how that all turned out. 

Now as tempting as it is just to sit back and laugh at this guy and how his sense of entitlement backfired on him and appreciate it as a case of “be careful what you wish for” – and I will – this is actually something of a perfect storm of bad decisions. In fact, it went so badly that, to me, it’s a valuable teaching tool. So rather than just poking fun and laughing, let’s take a look at what he did wrong, why it blew up in his face and how he could have done things better.

A Master Class In How NOT to Do Open Relationships

The story begins rather prosaically – while the anonymous poster was theoretically happy in his two+ year relationship, he’d begun to chafe at the restrictions of sexual exclusivity. Via the RedditLog archive:

Around 6-7 months ago give or take, I found myself feeling disconnected from her and the relationship. I was looking at other women quite a bit, and couldn’t seem to stop even though I DID feel guilty. I ended up singing [sic] up to a sex-themed website ( This is NOT a dating website, I wasn’t planning to cheat when I signed up, it’s more a social network and I was mainly interested in looking at pictures posted there.

Of course, it’s kind of hard to buy this when Fetlife is rather explicitly about getting kinky people together. A Sit-On-My-Facebook, if you will. But over the course of joining Fetlife “for the pictures” – which is the Internet equivalent of saying you only read Hustler1 for the articles – Romeo found that there were dozens of hot women all apparently interested in getting to know him better! And more importantly: they were hotter (read: thinner) than his girlfriend.

Not meaning offense to my girlfriend, but she’s a big girl (had been since I dated her though so I didn’t feel it was my place to say anything) and while I enjoyed her body, I can’t deny that the draw of all the hotter women on the website who were seemingly interested in me was too much and I was feeling more and more disconnected from my relationship with this gaping hole in my needs not being met. I still loved my girlfriend and she fulfilled me emotionally, but physically my desires were completely elsewhere. Eventually I realised that the best thing for me to do would be to open up the relationship or break up with my girlfriend.

Instead of breaking up with her, he pushed for an open relationship – much to her dismay.

I spoke to her about this and, well, it broke her heart at the time. She was sobbing on me the whole night of me talking to her about it, saying she wanted to be monogamous and she didn’t like the thought of an open relationship at all. She asked for a couple of weeks to think about it, which happened, but when we spoke about it again she told me she still didn’t want to do it. I had to tell her at this point it was this or break up as I didn’t feel fulfilled. At this, she said okay, she would try the open relationship.

So, in short, she agreed to the open relationship even though she hated the idea as she didn’t want to break up.

So starting from that excellent foundation of trust, consent and communication, he laid down some ground-rules – always use protection, otherwise it’s anyone, any time, so long as they know the situation.

Fast forward to two months later and apparently his girlfriend has come around on the idea; having created her own Fetlife profile, she had immediate and resounding success, with many, many men expressing interest in her and taking her on dates. Our hero on the other hand… not so much:

I’ve not hooked up with anyone, and only had one date. All the women who seemed to be interested in me turned out to only want to flirt online and only wanted attention, and when I brought up meeting up with any of them I got rejected. The only women who wanted to at all meet me or go out with me I wasn’t attracted to.

Womp womp.

All this came to a head (as it were) when he accidentally ran into his girlfriend as she was making out with one of her dates – a tall, tattooed, handsome beefcake of a man.

My girlfriend sees me, immediately breaks away from him and comes over smiling all over her face. She hugs me, kisses me, then the guy comes and introduces himself. It was awkward as fuck honestly, but my girlfriend didn’t seem to notice at all.

After some quick introductions and a reminder that the writer and she have a date the following day, his girlfriend darts off to the bathroom, leaving Mr. Reddit Romance alone with the other gentleman. Mr. Romance is less than pleased to be stuck talking to his erstwhile competition, who by all appearances is trying to be friendly and make the best out of an awkward situation. This is too much for Mr. Romance, who slinks off home in a cloud of  jealousy and shame. The end result: he wants to close things again because they’re too “unfair”; he can’t stand the fact that she’s so happy – despite the fact that she’s still making him her primary focus – while he’s not reaping the benefits of the open relationship.

Where Did It All Go Wrong?

Before we get into how to do open relationships right, we have to look at what this guy did wrong:


OK, more seriously this time. The first mistake is why he decided to push for an open relationship. Couples open up for a number of reasons: because they have needs that their partners can’t fulfill and want to get them met (with permission) outside the relationship, differing libidos, a desire for variety, a way of bringing the spark back to a flagging but loving relationship or even because they know that they’re not good at monogamy. In the case of our anonymous Redditor, however, he was no longer attracted to his girlfriend but wanted to keep her around because he wanted to fuck his cake and eat it too. He’s keeping her around to be his emotional sponge and sexual back-up option. Let’s be honest: he was going to cheat. While there are people on dating sites and Craigslist who are there just to flirt and collect pictures (you’ll hear people complain about this all the time), homeboy was making the first steps into trying to find a new squeeze. He just decided he did’t want to go through the drama of getting caught and/or breaking up with his current girlfriend. While I’ll be the first to admit that my thoughts on monogamy and infidelity are nuanced, it would have been far kinder all around for him to just break up with her and let her go find someone who not only appreciated her but wasn’t going to keep her around just for breakfast and cuddles while getting his rocks off elsewhere. Our Romeo is being unspeakably selfish and inconsiderate of the girlfriend he supposedly cares about.

This is made even more abundantly clear by the way he goes about proposing that they open up their relationship. Telling somebody you’d like to explore an open relationship is something to be handled carefully – you’re telling somebody you want to sleep with other people and that can be incredibly hurtful. Not only do you need to be gentle when broaching the topic, but it should be a long and ongoing conversation, not something you casually toss into the room like an emotional hand grenade. And that’s exactly what he did: throw it out without anyconsideration for his girlfriend or her feelings. After giving her time to think about it, she still wasn’t into it… so he forces her into it instead. By giving her an ultimatum, he has forced her hand: she didn’t want to lose him so she was forced into something she did not want. I’m fairly certain he could’ve found an even more dickish way to get his way, but apparently he wasn’t able to round up a box of kittens to threaten in time.

Strangely, the Humane Society doesn’t consider “emotional blackmail” an acceptable reason for pet adoption.

Now in fairness, he got lucky; despite her initial reticence, despite the shitty, shitty way he forced an open relationship on her, his girlfriend soon found that she liked it. In fact, she was having incredible success with it. And therein lies the biggest thing that Mr. Romance got wrong through this whole endeavor: he went into this assuming that he was going to do whatever he wanted and never have to confront the reality that other people were going to be fucking his girlfriend. In his mind, the plan would be that he’d be able to go bang out with one of these incredibly hot women chatting him up on FetLife and then come back home where his girlfriend would be dutifully waiting for him with dinner and a martini.

Of course, much to his great surprise, getting laid – even on FetLife – isn’t as easy as just presenting yourself like a ham at Christmas and expecting people to dig in. He never stopped to remember that it’s easier for a woman find a casual sex partner because – even among the kinksters – women are socialized against owning their own sexuality. Not to mention, more often than not, the sex just isn’t worth the potential risks. The flirty women on FetLife may have given him the impression that he was going to be balls-deep in strange from the jump, but in the end… not so much. Turns out you need to put in more work than just showing up.

Meanwhile, he assumed that his zaftig girlfriend would never be able to take full advantage of their arrangement like he would because… well, because she was fat. In his own words:

I’m going to be honest and say I have no idea why a guy like that is interested in my girlfriend and not out with a hot girl.

Emphasis mine.

This tells you everything you need to know about his relationship with his girlfriend. He’s contemptuous of her at best. He had absolutely no concept of her real attractiveness or the potential that she could score incredibly hot dudes. It never occurred to him that somebody – especially somebody better looking than him –  might value her company and find her desirable. Meanwhile, he’s complaining that the goddesses he was expecting aren’t into himand he’s only half-heartedly going out with girls just to try to even things up between the two of them. He can’t handle the idea the idea that hot guys are all up in his girlfriend’s business and his only recourse is to demand that she cut off the guys she like and to close the relationship back up.

And that leads us to the fatal final mistake: he’s a selfish shitbag. Through this entire process, he’s shown absolutely no consideration for his girlfriend; he was focused entirely on himself. He opened up his relationship because he wanted to bang some strange, and he wants to close it back up because it didn’t work out exactly as he fantasized. He can’t handle the fact that his “unattractive” girlfriend is desired and happy and he… isn’t. And this is somehow “not fair” to him.


What Can We Learn From This?

Now, having talked about all the things that Mr. Romance did wrong, let’s take a look at how he could possibly have made this scenario work. For these purposes, let’s assume that his motivation is at least slightly more positive than “I don’t want to fuck my girlfriend any more.”

The first thing that needs to change is the way he broached the subject. Instead of dropping it on his girlfriend out of the blue with no warning, it should have been brought up as a hypothetical situation as a means of testing the waters. It’s far better to talk about the subject in general instead of being immediately confrontational. “This is going to happen or else,” is possibly the worst way to bring up the subject. Forcing her to make an immediate decision is not only unfair to her, but it’s almost guaranteed to ensure the answer is “no”.  It’s much easier to discuss a hypothetical situation when it’s not an immediate threat to the current relationship. Equally importantly is to for Mr. Romance to recognize that this not be a one-time conversation. Monogamous relationships are complicated as it is; open relationships are even more so. You do not want – as Mr. Romance did – to just say “Ok, go away to think about this and give me your answer in two weeks.” That’s not only counterproductive but unbelievably cruel; you’re basically telling your partner that you expect them to stew in their own anxieties and then come back.

If his girlfriend had been at all open to the idea (as opposed to an immediate and unchanging “no”), then he needs to recognize that there’s absolutely no way that you’re going to hash out everything in one evening – certainly not to anyone’s comfort or satisfaction. They’re going to have a lot to discuss, not the least of which is reassuring his girlfriend of how he feels about her. Open relationships require absolute trust and faith in your partner and relationship; trying to go from a monogamous to a non-monogamous relationship without a strong basis of mutual trust and respect will not only destroy the relationship but cause a lot of unnecessary pain in the process.

What would the two of them want to talk about? Well to start with: why he want to open things up and what this would mean for the two of them. How does he view intimacy? What defines a relationship for him? What does fidelity mean to her? How important is this to him? What is he going to do if she just can’t or won’t do an open relationship?

Assuming that she was willing to give it a try, then, then it would be time for the two of them to have another series of conversations as they worked to design a style of open relationship that workes for them. Open relationships need to be customized to the people involved – it’s never a one-size-fits-all situation. What would this relationship look like? How would it work? Would they be equally open? Would they be semi-open, with one partner content to be monogamous while the other isn’t? What restrictions – if any – would there be on potential partners? Would it be only while one or the other partner is out of town? How much detail would they want to share about their activities? Do they have to meet the other’s potential partners, or would they prefer to keep it on a don’t ask, don’t tell basis? Are any acts off the table with anyone other than the two of them, or is it anything goes? Are there any days or events that are reserved specifically for the two of them? How would they handle potential jealousy issues? Under what circumstances would they renegotiate their agreement? Under what circumstances might they close the relationship up again?

They would want to nail all of these issues down and more – preferably in writing – to theirmutual satisfaction before they start actively looking for new partners. There’s no way to anticipate all possible contingencies and eventualities, but negotiating as much as possible as clearly and explicitly as possible helps work through most of them.

Incidentally, I’d recommend that they read Tristan Taormino’s Opening Up: A Guide to Creating and Sustaining Open Relationships during these conversations; it’s an excellent guide to navigating the tricky waters of open relationships.

But what if they couldn’t reach an agreement? In that case, it depends. If Mr. Romance realized that he couldn’t do monogamy or that having a closed relationship was a deal-breaker… better to be up front and end things. Trying to stay in the relationship would only make the two of them miserable; the clean break heals fastest after all. But under no circumstances should this have been used as a negotiating tactic; trying to get your significant other to go along by holding the relationship hostage is a deeply shitty thing to do to someone.

The Myth of Equality

There’s one more issue I want to bring up that this incident highlights nicely: the idea that equality, symmetry and fairness are the same thing. Equality isn’t necessarily fairness, and fairness doesn’t mean that everything is going to be equal or symmetrical. Relationships are built out of individuals and while there will usually be an overlap of interests and attachment styles, they are still individuals. Making things absolutely equal – the rules for the goose are exactly the same as the rules for the gander – doesn’t automatically become fair by definition because they may put greater restrictions on one partner over the other. For example: a person who prefers to get to know somebody well and have at least a friendly relationship with somebody before sleeping with them is going to chafe under rules that specify only one-night stands – even if that rule applies to both partners.

Then there’s the case of Mr. Romance and his girlfriend. He claims that because they’re not getting equal action, it’s not fair. Now, ignoring the fact that he wouldn’t be quite as interested in “fairness” if he was getting the lion’s share of ass, the fact of the matter is, it is absolutely fair; they’re both working under the rules that they mutually agreed to. The fact that it’s not equal isn’t something that can be negotiated; he’s going to have a damned hard time convincing his girlfriend that she’s not allowed to get any more action until he’s managed to get with someone equally as hot as the dudes she’s seeing. His inability to hook up with people (the super, super hotties he was hoping for, that is) is about him as a person, not a referendum on the fairness or unfairness of their arrangement. It’s still fair… this is, after all, what he asked for, under the circumstances that he wanted. If he’s not happy with the arrangement… well, under other circumstances and with other people, closing it up again might be a possibility that they could negotiate.

As it is…

Let’s just say I’m hopping his girlfriend recognized she could do better and left him for the six foot stud with the tattoos.

Originally appeared 5/23 at Paging Dr. NerdLove

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Reposted 5/25 at The Good Men Project

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About BroadBlogs

I have a Ph.D. from UCLA in sociology (emphasis: gender, social psych). I currently teach sociology and women's studies at Foothill College in Los Altos Hills, CA. I have also lectured at San Jose State. And I have blogged for Feminispire, Ms. Magazine, The Good Men Project and Daily Kos. Also been picked up by The Alternet.

Posted on June 30, 2014, in men, psychology, relationships, sex and sexuality, women and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 22 Comments.

  1. It reminds me of TV talent shows where people believe they are great singers when they can’t sing a note. He believes he is something that he isn’t.

    I cracked up at the “A Sit-On-My-Facebook,” line.

  2. If you ask me, I am not ok for the open relationships. If my guy would have asked me for this, I would just ask him to walk off and never look back at me. In INDIA, such scenarios are rare but still there are a few who believe in it.

  3. Well, this guy got it all wrong, walking a field of landmines should not be taken easily upon unless you know how to avoid the mines. You should never try to force someone into an open relationship and he’s lucky that their relationship wasn’t totally wrecked after this. I agree with the fair vs. equal argument, the rules laid down to open relationships and the _results_ that stem from those rules are two completely different stories. Like I can complain when I venture into the stock market if I take some losses, when the rules themselves are the same for everyone…No, you must accept that someone else may or may not achieve better results than you, but it doesn’t mean it’s not fair.

    Believing that you’ll have better luck than almost any woman in finding hook ups for an open relationships online is incredibly gullible at best. Women usually have the upper hand in these circumstances as men usually take more initiative than women. Hence, most women will likely have more offers to meet unless you’re looking like Johny Depp and/or incredibly wealthy. The fact that he didn’t see the facts that 99% of other men learned during their teens is a masterclass in stupidity.

    Personally I don’t see the excitement of open relationships, why put a working relationship at stake? There are countless stories where one or both end up hurt even if they chose the careful route and didn’t rush into it. And if the relationship isn’t working and you feel you’re not getting your end of the bargain, opening up is seldom a wise course of action, you’ll probably end up more screwed. To me, any girlfriend proposing an open relationship would be an insult and would most likely result in the end of our relationship.

    • I get your point. An open relationship would drive me crazy, and I don’t get what others find appealing about it. And I’ve written about that before:

      But I thought I should add some balance by bringing other perspectives. In fact, I have a couple friends who are in one, and at least one blog reader. One of my open marriage friends is also a writer who has written a rough draft on the topic for my blog. I’m waiting with baited breath.

      Different strokes for different folks.

      • @A Guy and BroadBlogs

        As I’m guessing I am the aforementioned blogger who is okay with open relationships, I feel that I should clarify why some people do them. Usually they are done so that a relationship is satisfying to both partners to the fullest extent. It is not an excuse to cheat, and as I said before the way the man in the example essentially strong armed his girlfriend into agreement was wrong. In a case like *that*, I wouldn’t even have agreed to it.

        For example, my current 7 year relationship is simply a FwB one, so it’s not a “committed” or “serious” one. This potential other one will also only be a FwB type, and both guys know they will be “sharing” me (in fact, my current lover is the one would recommended I get more experience). If it came about that either one of my 2 partners became jealous, then I’d do the responsible thing and stop seeing that person so they’d be free to pursue a serious relationship instead.

      • I agree to different relationships for different people and it’s good to hear them out. But I do think that open relationship don’t really fit the majority, at least I know extremely few that actually pursuit those relationships. For most I reckon it’d just be too much jealousy to handle.

      • For sure it’s in the minority. Hence, this post:

        Why Hasn’t Open Marriage Caught On?

      • @ Tarnished: Thanks for the clarification I do think it’s interesting to see different opinions on these types of relationships and really do respect that people have different preferences. I’m curious though, are you never really jealous if a partner doesn’t find full satisfaction in a relationship with just you?
        My take on this is that not being able to find or give full satisfaction to any given partner means that he or she is not really the right one and it wouldn’t feel good to know that your partner has to find someone in addition to be fully satisfied, but I guess that’s what different between me and those who are venturing into these relationships.

        I also wonder if it would have been different if your “primary” partner is more than a FwB where you have a deeper emotional connection? Do you think it’s a more difficult arrangement when you are more invested?

  4. How did he not know that she’d get laid easier than him. And he based this on some hook up site? Very gullible, those things seem sketchy and like a scam. A lot of dating sites and stuff like that, most often women are just flirting or window shopping and it means nothing. A man being flirty is usually more serious as him wanting sex. Oh well he deserved the backfire as he was a jerk and stupid.

  5. Can’t say I have a lot of sympathy for the guy! There are a whole range of different relationships and as long as everyone’s honest and happy there isn’t a right or wrong, but this guy really, really went the wrong way about things! Surprise, surprise mate, random hot chicks aren’t sitting at home just waiting for you to email them so they can come and have sex with you!!

  6. I would venture to guess that this guy’s approach to the women he tried to hook up with probably is similar to the attitude he displays with the way he seems to treat (and write about) his girlfriend… the tone in the way he told the story is pretty revealing. Happy for his girlfriend that she got to discover what she had been missing out on. 🙂

    • Yeah, wouldn’t surprise me. Making things worse for him, plenty of research shows that it’s much easier for women to get sex, so things would never be fair in his eyes.

  7. That could prove that it’s much easier for women to get sex whenever they want to than it is for men.

  8. Yeah…completely wrong way to do an open relationship. I have the potential to be in one soon: my FwB of 7+ years wants me to start seeing other people and get more experience (he’s had 12 partners, I’ve only had him). I have found a nice guy through the blogging community that I’ll first see in July.

    The thing is, I’m *still* going to be having sex with my FwB. And I do really want to try this whole dating thing, since I havn’t since high school. Thus, my new potential FwB already knows that I’m “with” someone else.Why? Because it would be a really shitty thing to start a relationship of any kind with a lie. This way, everyone knows exactly where they stand, and understands what is expected.

    Honesty and sincere communication should be the cornerstone of anything involving the possibility of sex or intimacy.

  9. Love it. I am at best tangentially acquainted with open relationships, but in reading this I can see very clearly:

    1) what my ex-husband did wrong about opening our marriage
    2) what some friends of ours are doing right in their open marriage
    3) virtually word for word the conversation my husband and I had about opening our marriage (before deciding that neither one of us wanted to)

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