About
Georgia Platts is the author of BroadBlogs.
I have a Ph.D. from UCLA in sociology and I teach soc and women’s studies at Foothill College in Los Altos Hills, California. I have also lectured at San Jose State University.
My expertise lies in the areas of psychology of women and social psychology.
I also blog for Ms. Magazine, The Good Men Project and Daily Kos and some of my pieces have been picked up by The AlterNet, Democratic Underground and Political Mosaic.
I first became interested in the issues I talk about here when I started wondering why women so often uphold laws and social norms that oppress them — whether insisting, generally, that they don’t want equality, to upholding specific policies like restrictions on voting or driving, or supporting government control of women’s bodies. Or buying into media ideals that tell them they aren’t attractive unless they have a body type that does not exist in nature (skinny with big boobs).
As I studied more, I learned about how, unconsciously, society gets into our heads.
I also learned about “the social construction of reality.” Turns out, humans have very few instincts (a general need for food and sex, for instance), but how those needs manifest varies greatly from culture to culture.
And as it turns out, sexim puts a real damper on women’s sexual interest and enjoyment.
Hmmmm, sex is socially constructed?
Notions of beauty are socially constructed?
While there is a physical reality “out there,” what it means to people is made up in different ways in different times and places.
I am also interested in relationships and how women and men get along — or fail to — when they are raised in such very different ways.
Gender is socially constructed?
Social justice issues are also very important to me, whether gender, race, class, LGBT… Here I’m especially interested in how the ideas of the powerful and privileged become dominant and seem like “reality” while the perspectives of the disempowered and underprivileged disappear — often from themselves. (Remember, women often support policies that oppress them.)
When I’m not blogging I enjoy reading, biking, painting (oil), and hanging out with my Women’s Spirituality Group. Oh, and I’m a political junkie. So not surprisingly, I’m involved with various social justice groups, including RESULTS (anti-poverty: helping people to help themselves), Rootstrikers (getting the corrupting influence of money out of politics) and Rebuild the Dream.
I live in San Jose with my husband, Rob, and my cat, Ms. Felix.
What feminists in the world today do you identify with? (For example, Hilary Clinton)
I like to think more in terms of who inspires me: Love Hillary, of course, but also Gloria Steinem, Naomi Wolfe, Audre Lorde, Irshad Manji, Carol Gilligan, Margaret Atwood, Tina Fey. Going back in time: Simone de Beauvoir, Margaret Sanger, Jane Adams, Abigail Adams, and Mary Wollstonecraft. Cannot forget Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton! Among men: Michael Kimmel, Michael Messner, John Stuart Mill, and Plato.
Just to name a few.
I am not saying that I agree with this, but I have heard the argument that Hillary does not live up to be a radical feminist at all because she stood by her husband after he was disloyal. I think that her personal life is her own and that taking something that personal into account is not appropriate, however I am interested in hearing your views on this. Men like Tiger Woods and Bill Clinton are respected and admired, so when they do things like this, it sets a bad example for male admirers. Likewise when Hillary stood by her husband after his disloyalty, she was saying that his behavior was forgivable and not bad enough for her to leave him, thereby setting a bad example for her female supporters. This is just a thought, this is not necessarily a statement that I agree with, and I would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks
Hillary is certainly a strong feminist in her public life, in all of her work and accomplishments.
Private life? At this point I’d forgotten the Monica Lewinsky thing. Thanks for reminding me. (Or not?)
It’s complicated.
I don’t like the way Bill and Tiger have behaved. And I’m not personally thrilled with standing by your man (and then there’s the irony of Hillary quoting the Tammy Wynett song). And it’s odd, because you’d expect that sort of behavior from women who can’t support themselves, but Hillary clearly can.
So based on what I personally know about the situation, I’m not a supporter of that.
At the same time, I don’t know what is/was going on with her and her marriage, so feel I can’t really judge her personal decision.
I do think if Hillary was truly being forgiving of Bill Clinton is between them, though I’m not thrilled when men act like such “horn dogs”. And, I’m male.
And I appreciate that.
Well depending on what you define as feminists. Many of the modern women from your list it would appear your definition is left or liberal democratic women.
From that list Hillary for sure. I worked my tail off to try and get her elected.
Then you switch to Conservative women – I am with you on all of those we also agree on Jane Adams, Abigail Adams, and Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and I would add Alice Paul of course.
I think however we are going to disagree on my comtemporary picks: Sarah Palin, Jan Brewer, Carly Fiorina, Nikki Haley, Meg Whitman all appear to be Feminists. They all work- have families are strong and educated and I don’t see anything that keeps them from being feminists except some Democrats who insist they are not simply becasue they belong to the wrong party.
So what is a feminist – a Democrat? That would be news to me an activist fighting for ERA and women’s rights for 50 years!
I agree that conservative women like Carly Fiorena and Meg Whitman are feminists. You’re also right that I prefer the liberal/progressive types since Dem’s are closer to me on matters of class, race, gay/lesbian rights…
Ahhhh Gay and lesbian rights – I know some conservatives are not as liberal unfortunately on that one issue but then even Hillary stated she didn’t agree with same sex marriage so I am not sure that is enough to rule out more than half of the population of women as not being feminists? I am totally lost in regard to your statement about dems being closer to you on matters of class and race? Oh please explain? That appears to be a very hasty generalization that shocks me!
WE may need to do a study on this. first off the great growth right now is in Independents where would the independent women fall? As a somewhat conservative Feminist who is FOR same sex marriage , ERA not at all a racist or classist – I am taken aback whenever liberal women make such a statement.
i am also taken aback when Conservatives generalize about Liberal women and I give them hell also.
When are we going to stop this? Maybe we need to examine what feminism really means? If it only means abortion, homosexuality and color – what about the majority of females – don’t they count?
When we split up into sub cultures we are weakened- we are women first – not gay women – left women – colored women – we are women. When will we get that?
Imagine The Majority United? I do and I am fighting like hell to get others to do the same. What a job – it’s like hearding cats! This is a study perhaps one such as yourself and one such as myself should collaborate on? That is if one really wants to get to it?
Let’s study women- let’s study feminism- conservative and independent women are feminists- liberal women do not own the term and it is time we share the term/ all women deserve to be respected for their decisions rather than be diminished because of differences. What do you think? Is there room for these questions? Does anyone care to discuss this and possibly make peace?
I grew up in a Republican family. Cast my first vote for Ronald Reagan. Then I saw that Reagan and a GOP congress continually aligned with the rich, powerful, and privilaged more often than the Dems did. So I’ve become more aligned w/Dems over time.
Me- I was a Dem- at 63 I was in the women’s movement of course- ERA etc. etc. Then I went Republican when you did – even went BA Christian ran for office twice as a Conservative till Perot came on the scene. Then I saw the light- or my light anyway- neither party represents the people and certainly not women. I became in INDY!
I think for myself- I have been both and kept the best part of each and tossed away the worst part of each- I’d like to think I am a Hybred– heheheheheh! Woman enough to think for myself and know when I am being played and used.
After what they did to Hillary – I knew along with millions of other women that had no respect for us. Some of us had the cahonas to tell then to screw off but some grovelled and gave in like battered wives and let them have their way and gave them their votes anyway! What did we teach our daughters about feminism? That a women can get more votes and still loose? That a woman can run and be called a Bitch and worse and no one will do a damned thing about it? That the race card can be used against her and every dirty trick in the book and Democracy can be abrogated and her own party will turn their backs? Did we teach our daughters that part of feminism is sticking with their party at all costs even after that party allowed the media to humiliate and degrade the former first lady with locker room jargon? Feminism in my book is what Alice paul and her ladies with her did! they turned against their own party – they went to jail – they stood up against the POTUS and they hung in jail cells for what they believed in and they did not quit.
But that is just my definition of feminism– what so I know? I believe in all women and all their rights not just some women and some of their rights. Independent women are free to fight for all their rights without the incumbrance of a prty affiliation.
Susan B. Anthony: “I never was surer of my position that no self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her political rights.”
But you are into sociology not philosophy right?
Hey there,
I’m currently in your womens studies class and just spent the past three hours reading your blog. You have very interesting and true things to say about issues women face and I can not wait to hear more from you!
Thanks, Stephanie!
Georgia – first off, I am thrilled to have come across your blog – thanks! I’m a writer and blogger living in Saudi Arabia and much of what I’ve found on your site resonates strongly with my own experiences and insights into this culture and Islamic feminism. I’m wondering if you’d be willing to let me repost a couple of your pieces over at SGIME. Thanks, and I look forward to hearing from you – Lori (sandgetsinmyeyes-blog at yahoo.com
Sure, I’d love to have you repost. Keep up the great work!
Interesting blog!
and dialogue on this page. I wonder – why do we have to align ourselves as ‘feminists?’ Why can’t we all just be humanists?
Well, I’m a humanist, too. But feminism focuses energy on an issue I’m very concerned with, and most knowledgeable about.
I recently wrote a blog exploring feminism as a “dirty word” that needs to be reclaimed–in many ways, feminism and humanism are aligned: http://elizabethhallmagill.wordpress.com/2011/08/25/the-f-word-feminism/
Dear Georgia,
Thank you for writing compelling posts. I am bookmarking your blog.
Sincerely,
Writing Career Coach Teresa LeYung Ryan writingcoachteresa.com
Author of Love Made of Heart–inspires adult-children of mentally-ill parents to speak openly about the stigmas. LoveMadeOfHeart.com
Thanks Teresa! Your workbook on blogging was really helpful! I understand you’ve changed the title to “Build Your Name…. to Build Your Writer’s Platform & Fanbase In 22 Days.”
I was wondering how a person enters into a career in Women’s Studies? To teach WS at a university do you need a PhD or will a Masters do? How competitive is securing a WS university job? Are there any non-teaching jobs in the field at all? What are the requirements of getting into a WS higher degree (not just minor or certificate) program? Do you know which schools offer Masters/PhD in WS? I tried to find the answers online, but didn’t really know where to turn. Thanks in advance!
To teach in women’s studies, it greatly helps to have a Ph.D. (must-have for university level teaching, but you’re more likely to get a position at the community college level, too.)
You can major in anything before getting a higher degree in women’s studies. My own Ph.D is in sociology, with an emphasis on women’s issues. (My undergrad was in business!)
If you’re having a hard time finding programs in women’s studies, you can always major in sociology, w/emphasis on gender/women’s issues. That may actually be your best bet for university teaching. Most people I know who teach women’s studies have a Ph.D. in sociology.
UC Santa Cruz is particularly great on women’s studies, though.
But here’s a link that can guide you on women’s studies programs in U.S. http://www.artemisguide.com/
I didn’t find getting a job to be too difficult. However, w/budget cuts in CA right now, I’m sure it would be much more difficult. In CA there is a lot of job insecurity in the state college system at all levels (UC, state, community college). If you’re in another state, you may be much better off.
Careers in women’s studies include: human resources, social work (need MSW), health, teaching, government, counseling and community work such as sexual assault prevention and rape crises councilor.
Here are a few specific jobs I know people who’ve majored in women’s studies have: educate school children on interpersonal violence, YWCA case manager for battered women, program director for discussion group for same-sex parents, family coach providing conflict management for families, law clerk to DC Superior Court Judge, program manager @ Nat’l Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, founded Women’s Business Initiative, fundraiser for non-profits, victims services, nursing home admin.
Additionally, women’s studies can prepare students who seek to go into law, medicine and business.
Hope that helps.
Thank you for the good information. I will use it to research and see if that is a viable back-up plan for me.
I saw this and immediately thought of broadblogs! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/09/human-barbie-boob-job-voucher_n_873705.html
this is such a disturbing article
So mommy’s little girl received a $10,000 voucher for breast augmentation surgery for her seventh birthday?!!! Uuuhhhhggg!!!!
I have to say that I am really enjoying this blog. The posts are interesting, informative and captivating. Thank you so much.
And thank you. I’m so glad you’re enjoying BroadBlogs!
Two really brilliant women who get too little credit, IMHO, are Marie Curie, who won several Nobel prizes, and carried on her husband’s research after his untimely death. She was, sadly, a victim of radiation before anything was known about it’s harm.
The other was Queen Christina of Sweden. She seemed too “Tomboy” to some around here, but desired knowledge. Where these 2 feminists? In a way. They showed women could excel in the Scholarly realms.
Thanks for the additions.
How have I missed out on this blog for over a year?! <3
Hi! I love your blog and your contributions to Ms.Blog! I am a writer/artist out of Omaha. I’m curating a feminist art show in April. I’d love to share more information if you’re interested! Cheers!
Love to write on it. Let me know.
Your blog is interesting. I read this side by side with a Male empowerment blog. I like to know both sides of the coin.
Good. I think men and women should both be empowered.
I was wondering if you would be willing to write something for my website? I was captivated by your comment on my site along with your own writings on yours.
Sure. Feel free to repost something of mine if you like (and link back to my blog). Or if you have a particular topic in mind let me know.
Hey I found your advice really helpful actually, so I mentioned it in this entry: http://misscompetitive.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/asking-for-advice-skype-scandal-conclusion/
Thank you so much! Hope you enjoy!
Glad I could be of service in your thinking. And thanks for the plug.
Best to you.
I love keeping up on this blog and what you’ve posted. You never fail to get the wheels turning in my head.
I just wanted to let you know I’ve nominated you for the One Lovely Blog Award at: http://unladylikemusings.wordpress.com/2012/09/14/one-lovely-blog-award/.
Gee, thank you so much!
Love your blog, too!
I nominated your blog for the One Lovely Blog Award at: http://onewoman365.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/one-lovely-blog-award/ I love reading your posts!
Wow! Thank you!
Love your blog, too!
Love your blog!!!
Absolute delight to read what you write!
And your credibility makes it even more impressive!
Keep writing!!
Thanks so much! Your blog looks great, too.
A pleasure to follow a real Pro! http://ofglassandpaper.com/2012/11/11/on-gemini-and-an-award/
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Thank you!
Hello! I love your blog, and I nominated you for the beautiful blogger award. I realize not everyone is really big on the awards, but I just wanted to let you know you have given me some great insight into some of the topics on your blog, and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading your posts.
http://scientificfemanomaly.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/beautiful-blogger-award/
Thanks so much! I enjoy your blog, too.
So, whats your Phd research topic was all about?
Women who enjoy motherhood live their lives differently from those who struggle. What can discontented moms learn from their happier counterparts? I wrote a series of portraits that gets beyond the mommy wars and lets women consider a variety of approaches to mothering which will help them to see what works, what doesn’t, and to consider what might work best for them.
oh ..thanks for the reply
I adore your blog!
I’d thought you’d stopped blogging since the home page is March 7. Just rechecked and found a recent post through the RSS feed. Hope others aren’t confused too since your blog is well worth reading.
I took a blog break and shut it down for about two weeks. Then took an “unbreak.”
Welcome back!
That sounds amazing, any where to read that?
I’m shopping a book proposal. (Literary agents were interested and told me to start a blog, hence BroadBlogs.)
I did find my originial dissertaion online at the New York Public Library, which focuses more on “the problem” — the more negative experiences. It’s called “Voices of Loss” by Georgia Platts (me).
I nominated you for a Sunshine Award.
http://confessionsofalatteliberal.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/got-a-pocketful-of-sunshine-award/
Thank you so much!
Love your blog! I nominated you for the Very Inspiring Blogger Award. A link to the award rules and information is provided below:
http://otrazhenie.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/very-inspiring-blogger-award/
Enjoy!
Thank you so much!
Love your blog, too!
Hi Georgia,
A commentator on my blog referred me to your site and I think it’s wonderful: insightful, punchy, articulate, forthright.
Give us this day our daily Broad. (sorry!)
Kind regards,
Vivienne.
Hi. Thanks for contacting me. Looks like you have an interesting blog, too.
Seems that men cross-dress for one of two reasons:
1) To express a side of themselves that is usually forbidden men. That’s more transgendered.
or
2) It can be a turn-on for some guys to experience themselves as sex objects (women are the sex objects in our culture, women aren’t)
Sounds to me that you fit category 1.
Since it’s more ok for women to be flexible gender-wise, we don’t notice it so much when women dress “butch.” But when guys do it, it’s a huge deal.
Have you seen some of my posts?
My Son Likes Girl-Things. Is He Gay?
http://broadblogs.com/2011/03/11/my-son-likes-girl-things-is-he-gay/
My Son Wants to Be Snow White for Halloween
http://broadblogs.com/2010/10/28/my-son-wants-to-be-snow-white-for-halloween/
How I’m Seen Differently in a Female Body
http://broadblogs.com/2012/06/15/learning-from-trans-folk/
Turning Indian Girls Into Boys
http://broadblogs.com/2011/07/01/turning-indian-girls-into-boys/
It’s Ok To Be A Tomboy But Not A Sissy. Why?
http://broadblogs.com/2011/03/30/it%e2%80%99s-ok-to-be-a-tomboy-but-not-a-sissy-why/
Hi Georgia,
Thanks for the rapid and helpful reply, and for taking a look at my blog. I read all of your links and found them (as expected) very insightful and interesting. I will amend a couple of posts on my blog to link to them, provided you have no objection.
In turn, may I refer you to two posts of my own, which touch upon your themes? The titles speak pretty much for themselves:
http://bluestockingblue.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/is-pornography-ok.html
http://bluestockingblue.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/children-and-gender.html
I would be most interested in your comments, if you have a minute.
Vivienne,
Hope you don’t mind if I copy these answers on you blog posts (perhaps minus the links). Here goes:
http://bluestockingblue.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/children-and-gender.html
Yeah, I don’t get why the mom would be angry that you didn’t recognize the gender with the way she dressed the boy.
I’m less worried than you about not being taught a specific gender. From what I’ve heard of other parents who have tried this — maybe not so extreme but allowing a boy to wear a dress and play with a truck, for example (he chooses) — once they get to school they do tend to conform to avoid teasing, but at least they would have had a few years of exploring and developing different sides of themselves. Personality traits are found in each gender, anyway. But then, I’m more concerned about developing a wider personality range than in allowing a boy child, for example, to have an affinity for dresses or dolls.
That said, I suppose there is a possibility it could be harmful. If I were the parent I would stress developing a broad personality over an affinity for dolls or trucks. So girls could become more assertive and strong and learn more teamwork while boys could become more nurturing and attuned a variety of emotions.
Re: “I believe personality is innate and cannot be modified, not even by gender-non-normative parenting.”
I believe that personality is formed in three major ways 1) the personality or porn with 2) social interactions you have with family, friends, and less so from others and 3) culture. The fact that you get both social patterns and individual differences suggests the role of all three.
http://bluestockingblue.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/is-pornography-ok.html
I have many of the concerns you do about pornography but the results seem to be a bit different than MacKinnon had expected. Rather than becoming wild raping men many men are having trouble being aroused by real women who don’t look like porn stars. Apparently, when men continually orgasm to a particular type of look, that look gets attached to their arousal. Some men also seem to get sexually attached to their computers and the fireworks of online porn, more so than real women and real sex, causing ED in young men.
Porn Can Cause E.D.?
http://broadblogs.com/2012/05/14/porn-can-cause-e-d/
Men Finding Fewer Women “Porn-Worthy”
http://broadblogs.com/2012/07/30/men-find-fewer-women-porn-worthy/
Real Women Competing With Porn Stars
http://broadblogs.com/2011/01/18/real-women-competing-with-porn-stars/
Should Women Give Men The Porn-Star Experience?
http://broadblogs.com/2011/08/03/should-women-give-men-the-porn-star-experience/
On the other hand, young men who have had plenty of experience with Internet porn seem to desire deep relationship with girlfriends, more so than past generations. Perhaps due to feminism.
Guys Are Getting More Romantic
http://broadblogs.com/2012/06/11/guys-are-getting-more-romantic/
Guys Just Wanna Have Relationships?
http://broadblogs.com/2012/11/28/guys-just-wanna-have-relationships/
Porn Fantasy Mistaken for Reality
http://broadblogs.com/2012/10/22/porn-fantasy-mistaken-for-reality/
Other problems include women being exposed to violent and degrading porn (but also in mainstream society) and developing a craving for their own abuse. That doesn’t always happen, but when it does it worries me.
I have more to write on this, but here’s this:
What Do Top Model and Hard Core Porn Have in Common?
http://broadblogs.com/2010/11/22/what-do-top-model-and-hard-core-porn-and-have-in-common/
and mainstream effects:
What Happens When You Beat A Sex Object?
http://broadblogs.com/2011/01/12/what-happens-when-you-beat-a-sex-object/
I can see the pro-sex feminist point of view too, that porn may be okay if it’s done, “right.” Like exploring sexuality and appreciating a variety of body types, consensual sex… unlike what is mostly out there right now.
Porn: Pro and Con
http://broadblogs.com/2010/12/27/porn-pro-and-con/
You also state, “The idea that your average woman equates “I feel sexy” with “I want to give a blow job” is a remarkably male notion of women’s sexuality.”
Interestingly, a lot of women learn that too. But then, women often come to see the world through male eyes. There’s a word for it: Androcentrism (a word I avoid in my blog). See these posts:
Sex Objects Who Don’t Enjoy Sex
http://broadblogs.com/2011/03/02/sex-objects-who-don%e2%80%99t-enjoy-sex/
Being Sexual vs Looking Sexual
http://broadblogs.com/2011/11/18/being-sexual-vs-looking-sexual/
Also, you are right that men and women tend to steer toward different types of erotica. See:
Men Watch Porn, Women Read Romance. Why?
http://broadblogs.com/2011/05/16/men-watch-porn-women-read-romance-why/
Twilight vs. Porn
http://broadblogs.com/2012/11/19/twilight-vs-porn/
I also agree that any pornography or sexual activity involving children is unacceptable. Kids can give consent, after all.
Re: “I was thinking some more about pornography, and why some women deliberately create and display pornography involving themselves. It’s just a theory, but I wonder if those women are doing it (partly) to create a sensation of power. The ability (and apparent willingness) to give pleasure is a powerful thing. To prominently display that places the woman in a position of power: I’m showing you this. I know you want it! But you can’t have it, because I’m a stranger on the Internet thousands of miles away from you.”
I hear this sort of thing a lot from men and I think it comes from a male perspective. The male role is all about power so they can project that motivation onto women. Also many men are reshuffled that women seem to take away their power. The women are probably seen a very differently. Women tend to see their beauty and sexuality — which are tied up together — as a measure of their worth. If they are seen as sexy than they are worthy and high status.
Women may also get into porn for the money. Some get sidetracked from the desired career in Hollywood. Others are drawn to it, or forced into it, from prostitution. For those who enter voluntarily it’s about making a lot more money than they could otherwise.
Re “I am stuck in the middle. Pornography is sexually arousing, but emotionally unpleasant for me. That creates a conflict worthy of Schlosser’s book. As a result, I recognise that, whatever it does to individuals and society, pornography is harmful to me. It’s not OK.”
Sounds healthy to me.
The way I see it is that porn is out there and it is protected by free speech so I am more interested in educating people on the pitfalls and they can do what they want with that information.
Wow! Thanks for your very long and detailed reply. I have already read many of the posts you point towards, and will check out the others. I will cut and paste your replies into my blog.
Porn is “junk sex”. Like junk food, it’s quick. cheap, widely-available, and popular. Most of us don’t eat junk food all that often. But there are people who don’t know the taste of a vegetable which isn’t deep fried and dunked in cheese sauce. In the same way as junk food leads to obesity and other unhealthy lifestyle sequelae, porn probably does the same. It doesn’t surprise me at all that some men become so conditioned to the appearance and behaviour of porn stars that “ordinary” women fail to measure up somehow. In a similar vein, there are probably some men who would prefer a burger and fries over a great home-cooked meal. I wouldn’t consider those men to be normal or healthy.
Very glad to have opened this dialogue. I won’t monopolise this thread any further!
Kind regards,
Vivienne.
Thanks for the perspective. A lot of guys who comment on this blog seem to want something more substanial than porn/candy sex. Seems like a good thing.
Hi Georgia,
I saw this and thought of you! Didn’t know where else to put it, but feel free not to post the comment and just use the link. (My email is on my “about me” page”). I also removed the anti-bot barriers to make it easier to post comments on my blog.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21033708
Best wishes,
Vivienne.
I would like to thank you so much for this wonderful blog. I have read thirteen pages of it in the past week, and it has truly changed me into a more aware member of this world. Thank you for changing me.
You are most welcome!
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