Guys: Romantic? Or Just Want One Thing?

130815_DX_HookingUp.jpg.CROP.rectangle3-largeSome reports say guys are getting more romantic. Others say they just want one thing, preferably from celluloid porn stars.

Which is it?

On the one hand guys are getting sexually addicted to their computer screens. Davy Rothbart explains that the “fireworks and whiz-bangs” of extreme porn is to real women what an Imax 3-D movie is to a flipbook. (Though he thinks it’s a problem.)

And after a tour of college campuses, Naomi Wolf concluded that far from turbocharging women’s objectification and turning men into wild, raping beasts, Internet porn is turning men off real women.

But others have found young men becoming more romantic than their older brothers and fathers. Ninety-five percent of whom would prefer to have sex with someone they love over sex with a “hot” woman. Over half only want sex with someone they love.

What’s with the conflicting data?

Actually, the stats are picking up patterns that are working at cross currents. All men aren’t the same, so while some guys get most turned on by their computer screens, others are getting more romantic, and most want relationships with real women over sex as sport – or spectator sport.

Even among the porn addicts who can’t “get it up” for real girls, plenty choose to sacrifice porn for relationships.

Yet, we are more inclined to believe that men are sex-craved because it fits our stereotypes — which are supported by evolutionary psychology.

But stereotypes are often wrong.

So is evolutionary psychology.

Men can’t have more sexual partners than women. And they cannot best reproduce by both being promiscuous (spreading their seed widely) and monogamous (providing resources for their children).

Meanwhile, so-called hookup culture and the fraternity code — bros before ho’s — can make it seem like men “just want one thing” when they actually want more.

An actual study of hookup culture found it to be mythical. After four years of college the average student had just over one hookup per year. Only 11% enjoyed hooking up and nearly 3/4 of campus men wanted girlfriends, not hookups — but believed that everyone else felt differently.

In the cross-current of guys wanting just one thing and guys caring for and loving girls, romance seems to be winning.

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Posted on September 16, 2013, in men, objectification, pornography, psychology, relationships, sex, women and tagged , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 26 Comments.

  1. I think most guys have a romantic side, but it’s generally down-played because male society doesn’t reward men for being sensitive types. Instead, we give kudos to ‘studs’ who bed multiple women as if each one was was conquest won, earning him machismo points. We need to value a man for his respect, loyalty and ethics in how he treats women. Luckily most women are smart enough to see that, and I think most guys realize that fact even if they won’t admit it in front of other guys.

  2. I hope romance is winning! As you say, stereotypes are often wrong. We have to avoid lumping people into a category based primarily on gender, whether we’re talking about women or men. It’s the individual that matters.

  3. Cool, yeah appearances can be deceptive. Another example is that on the one hand many women strive for physical “perfection” and yet most guys actually prefer girls who are fairly “ordinary” and who do not conform to the stereotypes of slim and “beautiful”

    Really good post!

    Rohan.

  4. Hey how’s things? :) Hope you had a great weekend! :)
    As a newly single woman, I’m astounded how many young men are looking for older women. At first I thought it was just sex, but Noooooo they actually want to take you out to dinner etc.
    As flattering as it is, personally it’s not what I’m looking for. But your right, there is a huge change. As for porn? Pffft it’s purely fantasy that’s all. Lol Hugs to you and I hope your having a great day. Paula xxx

  5. I think or hope it’s more than sex. Guys actually want the homing and lodging the woman unity of the relationship.The woman creates the ‘space’ that facilitates a reciprocal interaction. The intermediate ‘space’ is what allows the romance to flourish and a place where the two can create the togetherness.

  6. Myself being a man, yet separate from the men I hanging around I have seen that most men between the ages of 18-25 just want one thing. Men are looking to hook up with the women they first meet almost 90% of the time, from what I have experienced. A lot of the time women are categorized by the way she looks or the clothes they wear, they are also put on a number system 1-10. The higher the number the better that women looks.
    This article touched base on porn and made a comment that stated Internet porn is turning men off of real women. I would have to hugely disagree with this remark. All of my friends watch porn and if anything I think it makes them want a real women more than ever. They speak of new sexual techniques they want to try that they saw and ect.
    I personally believe that the new generation of men are becoming more romantic, but the simple fact is that the way the media portrays and objectifies women, they will soon jump upon the train of stereotypes, peer pressure and social norms of society.

    • Thanks for your perspective.

      The reason we do social research is because if we just judged everyone from our friends we would have a skewed idea of what the larger society is like. So in some groups, guys are more like you discuss. Other groups of guys want relationships. Apparently, research suggests that the latter is more common.

      On porn turning men off of real women, it doesn’t work that way with all guys. But it is working that way with some men – mostly men who over consume. What is overconsumption? If you’re getting turned off of real women and unable to get it up, you are over consuming.

  7. In my point of view, I think guys who chooses a relationship is a good thing because some people today seems to think that all guys will only go for hook ups instead of a relationship. The media culture today shows an impression that guys will only hook up with a girl who they find sexy then later on leaving them off in the dust which comes across to people thinking guys are like that. When reality guys do want to be with a girl who they can love, they like to give their respect by giving them a dozen roses every February.

  8. In my opinion I think many man do have soft and loving sides but not all men show it to every women. Just like how women been hurt men have been hurt to but one problem is women all thing man are stronger so they can’t love. As young kids were told that’s a man’s job and men this and men that but honestly we do have similar feelings men and women. Men can be in romantic relationships they just don’t want someone who slept with half of their friends or been around the block a few times. They rather a women with goals and plans than a women partying at the club every chance she gets. So yes men can be romantic is just has to be for the right women. In my opinion I think many men want relationships and not just hooks up but not all women want the same thing or men just haven’t found the right woman they are looking for yet. Some relationships take time not all relationships happen over night. Both men and women have to be patient you cant force chemistry in a relationship or desire for each other it all has to happen naturally.

  9. Interesting topic, I personally agree that nowadays men are so caught up with the idea of “bros over hoes.” I believe some men might try and hide that “romantic” side of theirs when hanging around with their friends just to fit in the circle. Men rarely talk to each other about their relationship, emotions or so it seems and if so they probably make it a short conversation. Unlike women who can go on for days. In my opinion I believe most men do have that romantic side only when they are deeply feeling for someone. Perhaps some men show the “romantic” side less than others but some way some how they must conquer a woman’s heart. With today’s generation most of us are caught up with the idea that “all men are the same” and “all women are the same” Meaning, that the good ones are going extinct. Surrounded by such thoughts from everyone we start to believe in this “men just want hook ups and not a relationship.” Life experiences also have a huge impact for us women believing men just want hook ups instead of relationships and it shouldn’t be that way. It’s who you surround yourself with whom you attract. The idea is to accept a man who is being romantic while getting to know you rather than just assuming he wants the hook up. In addition, to keep an open + positive mind. Within time you’ll realize what the relation is all about. Many men, like women, are also looking for the one, a partner to call their own. In other words, men being romantic doesn’t mean they just want that hook up.

  10. Romance is an important part of a healthy and long lasting relationship and i believe that most men have it in them. However I also believe that some men have a romantic side but since it is not what society expects from a man that is “strong and masculine”, they might suppress it. They could feel uncomfortable showing it, especially in front of other men because they do not want to be viewed as weak. It could also depend on how mature the man is and how dedicated he is or maybe even how he was raised.

    I used to believe that guys wanted sex more than romance but when I met my fiancé I realized that this might not be the case. I actually feel ashamed to say it but he is way more romantic than me.

  11. I think men are becoming less romantic because sex is so much more easily accessible. I think when a man is really in love and wants to make his woman smile then romance is a high priority. But when it’s woman he’s first met or someone who doesn’t require much romance in order to get the the finish line, then I don’t think it’s at the top of the average man’s list of things to do. I mean let’s face it, most romance these days comes with a hefty price tag and I consider myself conservative. (Others might call me cheap.) Bottom line, romance is the eye of the beholder. For some it’s being cuddled under a blanket with their significant other, drinking a bear watching Thursday night Football. For others, it’s a candle lit lobster dinner, with an aged bottle of wine. I think romance is relative…

  12. I think it;s one of those things where guys are split, even the player guys I think have a romantic, soft spot but they suppress it. It’s stupid how men can be insecure and always have to feel they have to be macho and scared of showing a sensitive side or softer music, movies, etc. It’s funny because most guys have that side, but some “secretly” will enjoy a chick flick say or softer, beautiful music, whether bag pipes, which is not less masculine, but guys can be too proud to admit or show their other non macho side or softer side. It’s so ingrained though that it can feel that way for me, where I’m thinking, ha, I can;t believe I like this, but whatever its a beautiful song. But what I mean is that, some party stuff or pictures from social media or hot girls, etc can spark thoughs or the part of me that wants to just have fun. But something that I see that makes me think of an ex gf that I cared for can spark the longing for a relationship and a girl to love.

    Other can too, sometimes breath taking stuff or beautiful things can spark thoughts of a significant other and romantic thoughts or the strong desire to share such experiences with one. What I mean is this. I love most types of music, I find certain songs or music can fit depending on my frame of mind during the day. I like rock,pop rock, some club music, somg hip hop, song country rock, love 90s songs, alternative, 80s songs, etc. There are even times where I like some softer songs too and even movie songs, I was surprised to like this dubstep violin version by lindsey stirling, it was cool and beautiful. There was a movie theme song that I always loved when I watched the movie as it was so climatic and powerful. It was a main song to the movie, The last of the Mohicans. It had bag pipes and celtic music. I found one by Royals Scots Dragoons Guards Bagpipes. It’s just beautiful and powerful and the scenery pictures, ha, it made me want to go there and think of how much I’d love to take a wife or significant other there and just romantic thoughts when listening to the music and the breath taking scenery of I think Scotland or Ireland, not sure. Here;s the clip

    I feel like such a girl getting into this music and stuff sometimes ha.

    • What you say makes a lot of sense. I’m not surprised that guys, Even Casanovas, can have a softer side and sometimes yearn for relationship. I actually have surveyed some classes on that second issue, But haven’t analyze the data yet. Because I was wondering if some guys are a mix. And thanks for the link.

      • You’re welcome. I think guy’s can think of future romantic stuff too. Like this makes me think of how, I’d love to be lost in some of those places and romantic thoughts in some of the places and scenic spots there in the video. It’s either Ireland or Scotland. I’ve heard Ireland is beautiful from people who have been there, though I haven’t, I’ve seen pictures. I’m sure Scotland is too, I think this might be Scotland though. Italy is still the place that comes to mind for honey moon, beccause I’m half Italian and I know Italy can be beautiful and romantic. But yeah, while maybe some love stuff from movies can spark it for women, for me its beautiful, powerful stuff like this, where it can make me long for sharing an experience in a place like that with a significant other. I don’t know if this specifically does for guys, but I’m sure there are such stuff too, though guys might not be open or talk about it.

      • The romance of Scotland or Italy would probably work for women, too, I’m sure. Those are beautiful, romantic places.

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