Lose Virginity, Lose Self-Esteem?

When women lose their virginity, they can lose self-esteem, too, experiencing a small drop. That’s what a recent Penn State study reveals.

Why?

Women college students were surveyed over time. Before sex the women felt increasingly good about their bodies. But after first sex they felt worse. Looks like when they’re in bed women start worrying about whether they look good enough. Masters and Johnson tagged the phenomenon of watching yourself from a third person perspective instead of focusing on sexual sensations or your partner, “spectatoring.”  Women are much more prone, being the objectified. Then, feeling they don’t measure up, self-worth drops.

Other usual suspects may also affect self-esteem, including the double standard that provokes worries about labels like slut and whore. Tracy Clark-Flory over at salon.com points to a 1995 study that found “women were significantly more likely to report that their first sexual experience left them feeling less pleasure, satisfaction, and excitement than men, and more sadness, guilt, nervousness, tension, embarrassment, and fear.” Even now women continue to experience that bind.

The double standard strikes again when women feel used, unappreciated, and worried about reputations after short flings or one-night stands.

Meanwhile, a study I recently posted finds 35% of women in strong partnerships feeling sad, anxious, restless, or irritable, after sex. Researchers don’t know why. Commenters, speculating on their own experience with the phenomenon, fingered sexual repression or difficulties with orgasm (which are related to repression) as culprit.

Studies repeatedly find that women are less likely than men to enjoy sex. Other research suggests the problem is not biologically based, or inevitable. Women in sex-positive cultures enjoy sexuality a great deal.

We are going to have to move beyond sexism for women to reclaim their sexuality. That would benefit both women and men.

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I have a Ph.D. from UCLA in sociology (emphasis: gender, social psych, women's psych). I currently teach sociology and women's studies at Foothill College in Los Altos Hills, CA. I have also lectured at San Jose State University. And I have blogged for Ms. Magazine, The Good Men Project and Daily Kos.

Posted on April 20, 2011, in body image, feminism, gender, objectification, psychology, relationships, sex, sexism, women and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 41 Comments.

  1. I think another reason women lose their self esteem when they lose their virginity, is because our society puts on such pressure by portraying sex as a perfectly unattainable scene. Movies and books romanticize the event–it should be the nicest, compassionate, studliest partner, the greatest cliche’ event, and of course only during the exact right time in a women’s life (and for the exact proper reasons). If things in real life don’t go exactly as the soaps portray them it casts doubt on the whole experience. Women wonder if society agrees she was ready to do the deed. Females doubt if the partner was her one perfect mate. Of course the event doesn’t match up to the closely choreographed dramatic version–so instead of happy, positive after effects, women are left with doubts, worries, and shame. . . I blame romantic comedies a lot!

  2. I agree, the reason I believe most women lose self-esteem is because when there first sexual interaction has taking place; the experience wasn’t what they’ve hoped for. Kit10phish above mentioned movies and their love scenes and compassionate romance, which I also believe, have a huge impact on what women perceive. We look at these movies with love scenes filled with nothing but false allegations, which is portrayed as lust and love; all the things a women aim for in a man. When women are convinced they’ve found that passion, they risk it—with the hopes of creating that same affection expressed in TV shows and our society. Most women are pressured into sex as well, either from friends or boys, that urgency later creates self-esteem problems or moreover regret expressed as social norms.

  3. Jessica Bailey

    Though I also agree with what the two previous posts have said about the scene not being exactly the way it is portrayed in the media feeling less than, I also feel that after the first time many females may also start to feel inadequate because of their lack of experience. I believe many women would like that the person that is taking their virginity may be the person that they tend to want to spend their life with. With the media portraying these first times romantic, often meeting certain unflawed attributes in the women, and the female actively participating in the encounter, women start to reevaluate the situation in hopes of keeping the man interested in only her.

  4. I think it is true that most women in our society see virginity as a symbol of whole and wish to have their first sex with the man that they truly love while men are always more unconcerned about it. Just like what is stated in “The Construction of the Body” that “Girls, on the other hand, are to remain chaste until they pledge sexual allegiance to one man, who will then care for them and the children they will bear, or to renounce sexual desire altogether.” I also agree with that romantic scene in movie is a cause of women’s sexual repression. Most women including me think the thing will be the same as what is portrayed in the movie, but it is definitely different. And women are always seemed beautiful and elegant, so some women may think about how their partners will think of them after having sex.

  5. I think the decrease of confidence and self esteem after sex is due to the expectations and pressures of society. I think it has more to do with, “what will he think after?” mind set that women have during sex. Even then, women do not want to be perceived as promiscuous and slutty. Even though they may enjoy sex during the intercourse, they may feel bad about themselves after because they are afraid of how others may perceive them. Also, I agree in the belief that women become angry and irritated after sex because maybe they did not reach their orgasm before their partner was finished, or maybe because she does feel used and unappreciated. I think men and women utilize their mind completely differently. In my opinion, women tend to over analyze their emotions and do almost everything with emotion and passion. While men, on the other hand, do things out of whim.

  6. I believe that many women in today’s society have a hard time dealing with sex and their own sexuality because of the negative connotations put on sex. Many teens in society are taught that sex is a precious thing and majority of parents still preach that abstinence is the best thing. For boys if they lose their virginity its a big accomplishment but for girls if they lose their virginity prematurely than they are considered corrupted and dirty. These ideas not only make girls feel insecure about sex but about their bodies. Society needs to let women claim their sexuality, Whether homosexual or heterosexual. Society has put this stamp on women that you need to be perfect all the time. That stamp makes women question their bodies and sex. The problem with society is that it won’t allow women to be comfortable with themselves no matter how much they want too because if a woman is too comfortable with her sexuality she is seen as a sexual deviant not a confident and sexy woman.

  7. I agree with what everyone above is saying about how women get an idea of how sex should be with a man from movies or books and it can be misleading. When they actually do have sex whether it be a good experience or a bad experience and the men do not act like they see in the movies or in books it could be possible that they develop issues because they think they don’t look how men want them to look. A woman may start to think that she is unattractive because she does not look the same way as actresses or heroines are portrayed and the flaws they have are ugly and not attractive and if they think that then they probably think that men think it too.

  8. This seems to be the general consensus, but I believe the issues that women may feel after sex, or with their sexuality all come from the way the female body is seen here in America. Sex is a taboo, yet the female body is constantly glorified and glamorized in every magazine. Women are expected to have a perfect body to be attractive, and this leads to many issues with insecurity. Since sex is seen as taboo, the act itself can bring on shameful feeling. Because of the media’s handling of sex, people can develop the impression that it isn’t something that should happen all the time, and I think that’s were the loss of self-esteem comes in. It should feel good to do something bad, but with sex, you’re in a very close, intimate (even if it’s a causal hook-up) situation. Your body is exposed, and it seems as though your partner’s enjoyment is entirely dependent on you. It’s demanding, and it can often be a lackluster experience, and that will develop the negative feelings. If you’re doing something perceivably bad, but it wasn’t very enjoyable, why did you do it? Not only that, you let someone inside of you. It can be heavy.

    • Yes. The research did specifically track women’s body image and self-esteem both before and after first sex, and found that body image and self-esteem both decreased after virginity loss. Other research has found problems tied to seeing sex, itself, as bad.

  9. I find this article to be very interesting, especially with the study and concept of spectatoring. After the concept of spectatoring being pointed out to me, I realize that this shouldn’t be surprising at all. The woman is laying naked (most likely) in the bed with the man whom she just had intercourse with. Of course she would be wondering if he was satisfied and if her body is up to his standards. She is at one of her most vulnerable times, it is only natural for insecurities to come up. Many women are strong and don’t care about these sort of things, but more women are victims to our self-esteem issues. You could be the most beautiful woman in the world, but at your most vulnerable I’m sure you would question things, too.

  10. Elizabeth Wright

    A large percentage of women (especially in America) deal with insecurities and worry about their bodies. We, as women, are oftentimes pressured (through subtlety or more extreme measures) to become the “ideal” woman. Not to put too much blame on films/other forms of media, but films often portray women to be sexy yet virginal. We are supposed to dress sexy while being unable to be sexual beings. There is a huge conflict with this. If a woman were to be proud of her sexuality, she would most likely face negative reactions (such as being labeled a slut or whore). On the other hand, if she were to dress “sexy”, but remain a virgin, then she would be labeled as a tease. It may be because of this that many young women are self conscious and insecure during/after their first time having sex. Most virgins are probably not too in touch with their body, so they feel as though they are meant merely for the man’s pleasure. This can create a feeling of being used while at the same time emphasizing paranoia about whether or not they “were good.” Telling women that they deserve pleasure is surprisingly difficult, it seems.

  11. This article forthrightly addresses the problem, which is that women suffer from the images of their natural bodies. Women have always been the targets of consumerism, which mass media deploy in order to sell its sponsors’ products. While people compare women’s bodies, if they do not meet the criteria, women will lose the attentions and love from people around them so that their self-esteem automatically drops low. Women are more pressured that if they can not meet the criteria, they will not be able to be loved by the partner. It is important for us not to increase such nervousness, which can be lowered by short flings, or one night stands by avoiding such circumstances.

  12. Kelsey Jackson

    I think women are more self- conscious of their bodies and that is why their self-esteem may go down after having sex for the first time. The men are concentrating more on the act, whereas women are worried about how they look and may feel they didn’t perform the way the should. I am not saying this is right, but I think as a society, that is how women are raised. Instead of enjoying the pleasures of the sexual act, we are worried about what we look like. Women should let down their “hair down” and not worry about what they look like… and enjoy the sexual act, just as much as men do. We are created equal and there should be no double standard.

  13. In my opinion, women begin to feel all these negative emotions purely because of how women are objectified in our society, view as nothing more than a piece of meat in the very worst cases. For women who lose their virginity and feel this way is because their partner has made no attempts at comfort or security or even sharing in the pleasure and enjoyment. It has to be admitted that many men are only after one thing but I believe that enough women should know this fact and aim to enjoy any sexual encounters that occur, take charge and thus forget all low self esteem and negative attitudes.

  14. Tatiana Dehnad

    A lot of what we talk about when we talk about sex comes from society, obviously. Therefore, not only the connation of sex is negative, but also a women having sex has a double negative meaning. We are brought up watching romance, love and sex on movies and we fantasize that our experience will be the same as it is portrayed by Hollywood. The reality of it is that it does not occur in this way and that instead it may be the complete opposite. I feel that the reason women lose their self-esteem and confidence in their physical appearance is because they expect to look a certain way underneath it all, act a certain way in bed and it doesn’t turn out that way. Another reason I feel that women may lose their self-esteem is because when you start having sex you see/feel yourself naked against someone else. This makes you more cautious of your body and as human beings, as female human beings it is engrained in our DNA to judge our own bodies as well as others. We focus more on our flaws as oppose to our positives. Losing your virginity has been portrayed in movies as losing innocence and to a certain degree I feel that that plays a huge role in women losing self-esteem because they then feel they are worthless because they just lost their virginity.

  15. I can see why some women feel like they have lost their self esteem once they loose their virginity because it’s a very sacred time when its your first time and your nervous and most don’t know what to do. Some women that I know personally that have lost their virginity regret it or they felt like when they lost it, it wasn’t that special. Women are very self conscious when it comes to their bodies so when their about to loose their virginity their thinking what their partners are thinking about what their body looks like instead of focusing on actual sex.

  16. I also believe that some woman loose a sense of self-esteem when they loose their virginity. On a personal note, it was my beliefs that hit home on my self-esteem. I would sit in shame thinking that I was worthless, impure, and unworthy of good things. I didn’t like being so hard on myself. I think that many woman fall into this category. I mean, every Sunday I hear how men and woman alike are to stay pure (until marriage) and worthy for the Lord’s riches, so it is easy to feel like the oddball. –I know that God is a loving God, no matter what He loves me. It took me a long time to drill that into my head.

  17. I believe the main reason why women lose their self esteem after losing their virginity is mainly the reason why, they decided to have sex. If they have the wrong intentions and are not doing it for themselves and being irresponsible about it, yes they will lose their self esteem. Because women are so objectified in our society media places so many requirements and guidelines of how a women should look. So much pressure is placed into a women’s lap and if they have wrong intensions going into sex, they will clearly be regretful and disappointed being in such a vulnerable situation. Obviously going into sex with a certain expecations, can cerainly have negitive consequences if its not what they expected.
    There are so many expectations in our society, and women feel the threat of it all. From physical expectations to expectations about how love should be. Growing up we listen to many stories about happily ever afters and romances, and we are conditioned to believe them in a narrow way and once we try to experience it most likely we get let down. Therefore inflicting women to have low self esteem.

  18. Tatiana Dehnad

    A lot of what we talk about when we talk about sex comes from society, obviously. Therefore, not only the connation of sex is negative, but also a women having sex has a double negative meaning. We are brought up watching romance, love and sex on movies and we fantasize that our experience will be the same as it is portrayed by Hollywood. The reality of it is that it does not occur in this way and that instead it may be the complete opposite. I feel that the reason women lose their self-esteem and confidence in their physical appearance is because they expect to look a certain way underneath it all, act a certain way in bed and it doesn’t turn out that way. Another reason I feel that women may lose their self-esteem is because when you start having sex you see/feel yourself naked against someone else. This makes you more cautious of your body and as human beings, as female human beings it is engrained in our DNA to judge our own bodies as well as others. We focus more on our flaws as oppose to our positives. Losing your virginity has been portrayed in movies as losing innocence and to a certain degree I feel that that plays a huge role in women losing self-esteem because they then feel they are worthless because they just lost their virginity and it is viewed this way by those surrounding them perhaps thus enhancing this feeling.

    • I agree with this completely. Also, becasue people watch hollywood movies they automatically believe sex has to be done a certain way. Women try to learn and men complain if they dont like it; thus, making their partner feel bad. And yes, women are expected to look a certain way and I like to find out why the presure is not on men to look SEXIER or do a better job. Women need to hold their head up high and when a man complains the need to let him go b/c they CAN find a good man.

  19. There are very notable views and perspectives when it comes to how society views sex. From a personal level, I was somewhat taught and socialized by my parents (who, for the most part, ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE AND TRADITIONAL) that women had more to lose when it came to submitting themselves in intercourse. We have the ramifications of getting pregnant while bearing the child, attaining more sexually transmitted infections, and the likelihood of feeling a sense of low self-esteem. We are very critical of one self and women are particularly critical when it comes to the remarks made about them. We are constantly self-conscious of our bodies in front of our sex partners because we want to appear beautiful, sexy, ideal, what have you. Women are sexualized as objects because we are always expected to be “pure” as if our bodies are a source of sexual commodity utilized by men. It facilitates the double standard that men are praised for sleeping with a slew of women, but women are negatively looked down on for being promiscuous with other men.

  20. I agree that for most women, perhaps not all, losing their virginity does cause a loss of self esteem. But this is definitely a multiple causation issue. One of those being with what others have already said, media romanticizing what that first time is supposed to be like. Then being highly disappointed, either with the experience itself, or with the relationship status with their partner afterwards. Also I think the age at which it happens is crucial. If the woman isn’t mentally mature enough to have sex then the impact could be greater on her self esteem. And of course there’s the pressure that society and the media puts on women to have an perfect figure. After a women loses her virginity her body is being speculated by another person, not just herself. Prior to having sex, a women is her only judge. The pressure of knowing, or should I say thinking that the male will criticize any little change in her physique creates an on going self esteem issue.

  21. Women’s feelings about sex can be largely contributed to double standards generated by American society. It’s true that men are somewhat celebrated for being sexual active, while women are socially ridiculed. So it isn’t be so far-off why women would feel the way they do after having sex. Also gossip can be a cause for why women’s self-esteem decreases, many men see losing their virginity as a rite of passage and when deed is complete they run to their friends for praise. During the praising some tend to discuss how nasty or slutty the girl was in bed, which can ruin her social image and the way she feels about herself. However, that is only one possible explanation. Another could be that when a woman loses her virginty, she feels that she lost a part of herself, such as her innocence making her less valuable.

  22. With me it kind of similar my first boyfriend was a lot skinner than i was and when we would sleep together i would get embarrassed of how my body looked. It made me not want to have a sexual relationship with him or try out anything new. With my next boyfriend he was a lot bigger than i was and i don’t know his body type made me feel more comfortable with my body type and we couldn’t keep our hands off of each other. i am not sure if everyone has a similar experience or can relate to what I’m saying but i think that even if two people love each other they can still feel uncomfortable around each other when it comes to something so intimate like this.

  23. Society plays a huge role in how girls act when it comes to sex. We are afraid of being judged. Everyone wants a virgin or somebody who has had less sexual partners. Nobody wants a slut. Girls are so good at over analyzing and generally have less self-esteem than guys because we are being judged constantly. It atleast feels that way a lot of the time. It’s sad. Because once it comes down to the sexual act many may not be really into it because they are overthinking every action versus enjoying what happening. You only lose you virginity once. Once it’s gone many girls may feel that they don’t have anything else going on for them that it attractive to guys any more. This is wrong and not true. Virginity is something thats abstract. It’s more of a feeling than anything else. It’s not tangible. I think a girl can feel like a virgin if she reminds herself of the fact that she is worthy and loveable. Every girl should know that. You do not need your virginity to validate you or tell you that you are a ’‘good girl’’.

  24. So many girls think that just because they have sex they will feel better about themselves and feel more accepted. When it reality that is not the case, a high percentage of girls who had sex for the first time report that they did not feel a sense of confidence but instead had increased low self-esteem. Girls are more pressured into feeling self-conscious about sex. Things like looks, STDs, pregnancy, and performance are some of the major factors that keep women from being able to completely enjoy sex. Therefore, they end up very disappointed and with low levels of self-esteem because girls assume that because the media (TV, movies, magazines, porn, etc.) tells them that they must look and act the part of those in the professionals in order to be successful in the sex department, which discourages girls from the get go.

  25. Demi Battaglia

    I agree that most woman lose some sort of self confidence after they have sex for the first time. However, in my situation I lost my virginity to a guy that I really cared about and felt completely comfortable with. My self-esteem was boosted with him because I knew he cared about me and it reassured me that I had nothing to worry about. It wasn’t until we broke up and I started having sex with other guys that I felt like my self-esteem was at an all time low. Not being comfortable with the guys made me question everything. In a lot of ways I was afraid of being judged by my body image. I really had nothing to worry about, but not having that emotional connection with the guy made it difficult to even take part in any sexual acts. I have learned that being comfortable with a guy is something a lot of woman need and want to feel a sense of confidence.

  26. I think that depends upon each situation. Looking at my own experience, I didn’t lose my self-esteem at all, since I did it with my first boyfriend. I think when you are in love with someone, it is a very important step. Moreover, the relationship gets more tight, and strong. On the other hand, I can understand that some women might lose their self-esteem. They might have done it because they were afraid to lose their boyfriend but weren’t ready. Concerning the fact that women enjoy sex less than men, I could understand too. As we talked in class, women are much more into feelings, and relationships. So if there is one little issue, that is going to drive her mind crazy, and will not focus on just enjoying the moment.

  27. According to our tradition, woman could just have her fist sex with her husband. If women lost their virginity before marriage, they would be condemned as obscene and and unclean. It would result in abandonment by the family and even sent to death. Though today women would not be physically punished if they lose their virginity, they seem to become less “valuable” when comparable to the virgins. Virginity is viewed like a gift to every woman that just to devote it to the only true love in life especially husband. If this gift is divided into pieces to different men, the value of the gift would depreciate. Therefore, women seem to lose self esteem because they use virginity to define their value.Losing virginity implies losing individual value which causes lower self esteem. When they meet new guys, they would concern if this man cares about virginity much.And they would care how others look at them. After marriage, these women believe losing their virginity to other guys would make their husbands less likely to treasure them. Then, they have lower self worth and feel so sorry to their husbands.
    But still, many women don’t care about virginity much. In modern society, pre-marital sex is common. Many women lose their virginity and their first sex is usually not their husbands. If woman thinks in this open minded way, she would say it is no big deal. And losing virginity wouldn’t lead to lower self esteem.

  28. I have had friends that are on both sides some that felt horrible that they did not wait until they were married and felt like everyone was judging them and I have had some friends that did not feel bad or lose self-esteem over it. I know my first time I did not feel bad or lose self-esteem but I was also raised by a strong mother who never put a double standard in my head and who always talked about sex with me but made it clear that it was my choice when I lose my virginity and just be care and safe. I personally do not believe in the double standard I feel like your sex life is your own personal stuff, its no ones business when or how many people you have been with. It just important that you are safe and careful for your own good health and the people you are sleeping with. I can see why women lose self-esteem and feel inadequate it pressure society put on women.

  29. I think girls tend to loose thier self esteem after they have sex because they get influenced by movies and media. For example if a girl watches a sex scene on tv or in a movie and the gir has a nice body of course they are going to expect the same experience. So once the time comes for them to have sex they ask question to themselves like, “Do i look good?” I wonder if i look as good as the girl i saw on tv?” So there self esteem drops knowing they dont look as good for their partner.

  30. elizabeth rankin

    I believe that the reason why women feel good about their bodies before having sex is because they are simply covered up with clothes, they are not exposed. They are also in the heat of the moment. However, when a woman gets undressed and is completely naked in front of a man is when they begin to worry about their physique. They start to question “are my thighs to big? Is my stomach not flat enough? Are my breast not big enough?” etc. I believe women are this way because of what society values: thinness, big breasts, etc. These physical attributes are displayed everywhere in the mass media from magazines, television shows, celebrities, fashion shows, etc.

  31. Casey Delgado-Miller

    In high school I knew a lot of girls losing their virginity for all the wrong reasons, they didn’t want to lose their boyfriend, or everyone else lost it and they wanted to fit in. I think a huge reason that self esteem decreases is because girls have sex for the wrong reasons with guys who are even less mature.
    Additionally, girls are put in a social culture that – in my opinion – glorifies sex. Movies and advertisements sell sex to adolescents. This is a crucial part in their life as peers have just recently become the biggest influence in their lives. While they remember church and parents impressing they remain pure, every other aspect of society pushes them to prematurely have sex.

  32. I find this post very interesting, I agree as well. It’s really sad how in our culture when men lose their virginity they are very accepted and seen as cool especially when this happens in high school. Whereas girls are seen as sluts or easy after such occurrences. I could see why this would make women subconsciously not as excitable when it comes to having sex and allow men to enjoy it more. Sex is such a huge concept in our culture and there is a large amount of pressure on it. No wonder women have anxiety during, before and after it.

  33. zaineb alkhaleef

    I wasn’t raised in a sex-positive culture. I grew up learning that I should wait until marriage before having sex. In my household with my parents, sex was never a topic to converse about, all I needed to know that if I lost my virginity before marriage then i’m worthless. Although this was the case, I didn’t need to grow up in a sex positive culture to enjoy my sexual life with my fiancé, I feel that I’ve gained more confidence afterwards because we both decided to wait so i’m not as worried about him comparing me to anyone. It does affect women in various ways, not all women will gain that confidence, especially when their first partner doesn’t treat them well.

  34. One of those other differences between men and women. I do think it’s because a woman might feel disappointed or used or did something because she felt pressured too, so guilty and low esteem after about it. Especiallly if it was not what she was expecting or from a man she was hoping would like her more than she liked him or she was hoping would be from a man she has a serious relationship with, etc. But as most know, it’s like the complete opposite for guys. SO low esteem in completely different ways. A women losing her virginity feels worse about herself after, whereas, many guys having low esteem from not losing their virginity. Some of that can be from social pressure, but even without it, I think many guys esteem can be affected even without the social pressure. Not all boys are around jocks talking about girls or getting laid, but with friends who actually don’t care whose baning who, but these guys can still feel bad for not losing their virginity. The reason being simply is guys don’t need feelings as much as women do and can desire and want sex, just for the sake of sex, and the physical, visual/ carnal desire. And a man not getting sex or never having sex, can be irritating and depressing for a man, as it’s most likely to cause a guy to feel he’s not desirbable or somethings wrong with him for not having sex or being sexually desired, or atleast confused and irritated when guys he perceives as less attractive than himself are getting laid, which is even more salt to the wound.

    • Yes, the experiences are different for women and men, partly for the reason you describe: men are celebrated for having sex with random women whereas women doing the same are sluts. But also because women feel judged by their appearance, whereas I don’t think men think about it that much – other than penis size – which they actually don’t need to worry about. (About 20% of women are more likely to be sexually aroused by a long penis that hits the cervix. Another 20% finds the same thing painful. And the rest don’t notice much of anything that’s pleasurable – women are much more likely to be aroused by outercourse than intercourse.)

  35. Yeah but not all of it is from men being celebrated for having sex with random women. Secure guy’s don’t need validation from other men or do things to fit in or to get the pat on the back. Some guys who don’t need the pat on the back, still might want to lose their virginity just because they want sex and haven’t had it yet and it might irritate them they haven’t especially when other guys, who a man deem as inferior to them is. Basically a man wanting to have sex for the first time and get experience might simply be for the fact of basic hormones, and great frustration and then depression setting in, because he’s not feel wanted, when he feel he should be. This standard is stupid and hurts men just as much as women. It’s not good that women can be slut shamed for being promiscuous, but it’s also really not good for men. And why I never understood this mentality, especially guys thinking this way. They basicauly are de valuing themselves by being proud of how many girls they’ve slept with or patting their buddies on the back for it. BEcause the way I look at it, your value as a man is not innate if something else “women” decides your worth or value. You’re a stud because you sleep with these pretty girls? Well so basically, you were worthless before? So these guys never had worth until they were banging girls? really? I don’t see it that way for myself ha. Call me too proud or whatever, but I’ve always felt to be a studly son of a bitch regardless of if I slept with a girl or not or how many. Because I don’t put a girls sex on a pedestal which these guys apparently are. It’s like a man being proud of sleeping with girls is saying, men are not valuable sexually or a dime a dozen compared to other guys. I know how the game works and supply and demand, but I don’t see myself that way, it’s like these guys seem themselves as quantity, I believe there’s quantity and quality and I see myself as quality, so if so, why would I see hooking up with a hot girl as a knotch under my belt and sell myself short. She can have me as a knotch under her belt though if she wants….

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